--- Jack Johnson <johnaire@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Mike, > Can you explain the Rootes for me. I've seen > parts boxes with this name on but have not been able > to identify the parts with the numbers on the box. > > Rootes piece (Rootes used the pentastar from > about '66 on). Okay. Doing this for the whole list in case anyone else needs this explanation as well. The Rootes Group was a major British manufacturer, making Hillman, Sunbeam, Singer and Humber cars, Commer and Karrier trucks, and I believe they made busses and tractors as well but I could be wrong. The short version of their story is that they were weakened greatly by a strike in '61-'62 and sold a large part of the company to Chrysler in 1964, selling more of the company to Chrysler over the next few years until Chrysler took over completely around '70 or so, at which time Rootes was renamed Chrysler UK. The original Plymouth Cricket (I describe it that way because Canadians got a badge-engineered Dodge Colt that also used that name) was a rebranded Hillman Avenger. (Brazil got this same car as a Dodge.) Chrysler killed off the Singer name in 1970, and rebranded the Commer/Karrier trucks as Dodges about the same time. They dropped the Humber and Sunbeam brands in '76 and Hillman in '77, marketing the remaining cars as Chryslers. A year or so later, Chrysler sold all European car operations to Peugeot, which continued building these cars under the "Talbot" name until sometime in the mid-'80s. (In a strange coincidence, Simca had owned the rights to the Talbot name in France while Rootes had owned rights to the Talbot name in the UK.) The truck plants were sold to Renault, which continued building trucks under the Dodge name but may not be doing so now. (One reason the Viper is sold in Europe under the Chrysler brand name is that Renault now owns rights to the Dodge brand name in some markets...) I wish I knew Rootes part numbers better; I just had to sell a very nice '59 Humber Super Snipe when the steering gear self-destructed (my British friends couldn't help me, as the RHD cars use a different steering box). Not a complete tragedy, as this sale made the 300-K purchase possible, but a disappointment just the same. (Especially when you might've been looking right at just what I needed, Jack...) :^) Mandatory FWDLK content: If you ever get a chance to check out pictures of the first generation Humber Sceptre or Singer Vogue, the headlight treatment may remind you (it did me, at least) of '57-'58 Chryslers and DeSotos... ...also, some of the Sunbeams had fins, but were more closely related to the Studebaker Hawk stylistically than any of our cars (Raymond Loewy's firm did styling for Rootes as well as Studebaker). I have pictures of Rootes and Chrysler UK dealership signs I can send to anyone who is interested. They look very much like Chrysler dealership signs here but the names are of course different. ===== Mike Sealey, San Francisco CA '57 Plymouth Sport Suburban '64 Chrysler 300-K 2dr Hardtop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com
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