Hi Larry, Good to hear from another "G" owner. Let me know when you are here and we can visit that junkyard! 300ly, Don ---------- > From: menges <buick.meng@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: New Member and Brake Fixes > Date: Saturday, March 21, 1998 8:39 PM > > Hi Don, well you are looking at another finned Chrysler nut or rather > hearing from one. My son and I have a 1961 300G and a 61 New Yorker Town > and Country wagon. We have several other MOPARS. We just joined the > forwardlook on Friday. My wife is from Cranston R.I. My sister and > brother in law still live there. His name is C.R. Martin. We have been > back there many many times. I have heard of the salvage yard that you are > talking about. We are coming to R.I.for a week on the 20th of July. Go > U.R.I.. > We will talk to you later. > > Larry Menges > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > From: Donald Verity <d.verity@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: New Member and Brake Fixes > > Date: Saturday, March 21, 1998 3:47 PM > > > > Hello all, > > > > I just signed up this week so introductions are in order! My name is > Don > > Verity and I am from Smithfield, R.I.. I seem to be the first person who > > has written who has later finned Chryslers. I own a 59 300-E, 60-F, and > > 61-G. I also have a 66 Imperial Crown Coupe, 69 T&C wagon, 70 New Yorker > > 4dr. ht., 70 Challenger R/T, and 85 Laser turbo. I have owned my G > longest > > of all my finned cars. I bought it in November, 91 with 51,000 original > > miles and have put about 25,000 on it since. It is a very rust free car > and > > is the best driving car I own. It is almost completely free of any wind > > noise and rattles and the power is awesome! I bought my F in 93. It has a > > non-stock 69 440 and 62 aluminum torqueflite. It has the rams on it and > > looks like stock until you check the number pad. It has done a best of > > 14.33 at 93.68 at the drags and is currently being restored (mostly by > me). > > The 59 E has not run since 66 and has a dealer installed Paxton > > supercharger on it. It had an engine compartment fire in 66 and hasn't > run > > since. I was in the right place at the right time to get this one! It > needs > > a full restoration. My basic philosophy on the cars is to drive and enjoy > > them because that's what they were made for. The best way to really > > appreciate a letter car (or any old car) is to drive it! > > > > On to the brake problems! When I brought my G home I had to use dish > soap > > and a hose so it would slide off the ramp truck. All four wheels were > > frozen! It had been in the original owners home which was vacant after > his > > death. The pipes had frozen and burst at one point and when they thawed, > > no-one noticed that they were leaking for quite a while! The G did not > > suffer any damage except the moisture from the water froze the drums to > the > > fresh shoes. Even though all the parts were fairly new, the wheel > cylinders > > were no good. On cars as old as ours I don't believe in taking chances > with > > the brakes. I completely rebuilt the system with new cylinders, hoses, > and > > master cylinder. I cleaned up the shoes and drums figuring they were OK > to > > use as is since the shoes were new. I also used silicone fluid. After > this > > the hydraulic part was OK, the brakes still pulled quite badly. To make > an > > already to long story shorter, the problem was the shoes and their fit to > > the drums. What I did was to have the drums turned and ground, and I had > > the new shoes contour ground to fit the drums. It made all the difference > > in the world! The car stops straight and true and I have had no problems > in > > over 20,000 miles! There are not to many shops around that can grind > drums > > and shoes but it is worth the effort to find one. Brake noises are > usually > > because of shoe fit also. Keep in mind also that if your brake pedal > pumps > > up, or is spongy, there could be air in the system. I have bled my brakes > > myself using a glass jar party filled with fresh fluid and a hose running > > from the bleeder valve to the jar. All you have to do is loosen the > bleeder > > and pump the brakes until there are no bubbles. Another cause of a low > > pedal could be the adjustment of the pedal rod from the brake pedal to > the > > master cylinder. It should be adjusted so there is minimal play in the > rod > > (not the pedal). If it is to tight, the brakes will drag and quickly > > overheat. The adjustment at the wheels is important too. They should be > > adjusted according to the shop manual. I have done the same treatment to > my > > F with the same results. It also has metallic linings that I got from > NAPA > > a few years ago. I have made back to back runs at the drag strip with no > > problems stopping. All the things I have written pertain to center plane > > brakes of the power variety. Most of the tips should work on the earlier > > design. I also agree that putting a dual system on a car not designed for > > it will not help braking performance, and if your brake system and > > emergency brake is in top shape, you should enjoy miles and miles of safe > > and trouble free driving. The old brakes don't compare to modern disc > > brakes, but our Chrysler brakes were actually better than average when > they > > were new, so you are safer driving a Chrysler product anyway! > > > > Both of my Cross-Ram cars also Idle like they have a two barrel, but > Ram > > tuning is another story, and I have rambled on long enough! Long live the > > fins!! > > > > PS. I live near a Mopar junk yard that has a number of 56-62 Mopars, > > mostly Chryslers, but if anyone needs something, let me know. > > > > 300ly, > > Don |