Like it or not (and for the record I love it) this is the American way. Capitalism at its best. The market will dictate the appropriate price. For every little old lady there are hundreds of scumb#$% that will have you drive 250 miles to see a perfect mint condition 0 mile original owner car that was dragged from a swamp yesterday after sitting underwater for 15 years. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Scott >From owner-l-forwardlook@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Thu Jan 14 10:30:13 1999 >Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by LISTS.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) > with BSMTP id 8498; Thu, 14 Jan 99 12:52:19 EST >Received: from LISTS.PSU.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail V1.2c/1.8c) with BSMTP id 9914; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:52:19 -0500 >Received: from LISTS.PSU.EDU by LISTS.PSU.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8c) > with spool id 3983 for L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 > 12:52:18 -0500 >Received: from PSUVM (NJE origin SMTP@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail > V1.2c/1.8c) with BSMTP id 9908 for <L-FORWARDLOOK@PSUVM>; Thu, 14 Jan > 1999 12:52:18 -0500 >Received: from bastion1.dbisna.com (159.137.146.252,4402) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM > VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 14 Jan 99 12:52:14 EST >Received: by bastion1.dbisna.com; id MAA25444; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:52:14 -0500 > (EST) >Received: from exbhbhbh01.us.dbisna.com(159.137.224.38) by bastion1.dbisna.com > via smap (4.1) id xma025354; Thu, 14 Jan 99 12:52:08 -0500 >Received: by exbhbhbh01.us.dbisna.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > id <C68FL40K>; Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:54:45 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Message-ID: <199901141752.MAA25444@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:51:00 -0500 >Reply-To: "Sperduto, Nick" <SperdutoN@xxxxxxx> >Sender: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >From: "Sperduto, Nick" <SperdutoN@xxxxxxx> >Subject: Re: [FWDLK] RIP OFF OLD LADY COMMENTS >X-To: VAN HOY <VANHILLA@xxxxxxxxxxx> >To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Sorry, I didn't originally try to start any kind of war. >Tell me, what's it worth. The car needs a complete resto, doesn't run, = >needs >full interior, needs an entire quarter panel, fender and trunk lid. = >Which to >me is a major piece of body work. If no one has bought the car in a = >year of >advertisement. I can't be the only one that thinks the car is not worth >much. What's better, my $200 or the $50 from the junk man. >and she's not a little old lady. >Personally, collector car or brand new car. My job as the consumer is = >to >spend as little of my hard earned cash as possible. >Something makes me think you are a salesman > ---------- >From: VAN HOY >To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: [FWDLK] RIP OFF OLD LADY COMMENTS >Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 10:47AM > >Looks like FLAME WARS are starting!!!=A0 Cut it out!!! >=A0 >Look guys and gals, this is the good ol' U.S. of A.; if you want to = >cheat >some lil' ol' lady it's up to you [and her]; if you want to ask $5,000 = >for >your parts car and let it rust that's up to you too!!! >=A0 >I've seen lots of cars rust away, including a '41 Ch-- convertible that = >was >parked for lack of tires in 1944. >=A0 >I've also seen a guy, recently, a real jerk, talk the original owner of = >a >'66 Plymouth with 75K down from $275 to $265. [True story!]=A0 Then he = >wrecked >it, collected ten times the price in insurance money, and won't sell me = >any >parts because he's saving them for his next '66.=A0 [this was the 2d = >he's >wrecked] >=A0 >I paid $2,500 for a #4 car.=A0 Was it too much?=A0 YES!=A0 Is anyone = >complaining? >NO!=A0 The old man dying of cancer who saved the car from being wrecked = >or >crushed for 43 years deserved something for his trouble.=A0 If you = >don't have >a car you don't have a project and you can put all your sweat equity = >time >into honeydo projects. >=A0 >Both extremes make me mad.=A0 $200 bucks for a complete '48 Dodge is = >too low, >even if they did make a million of 'em.=A0 It's more a matter of = >attitude.=A0 If >you set out to steal something, or hold somebody up, or you think your >attitude is better than the next guy's, or your time is more valuable, >either way you give decent car collectors a black mark.=A0 It's = >downright >sociopathic to be thinking of how you can get what you want and screw >everyone else. >=A0 >End of sermon, my blood pressure is up, back to work. >=A0 > --Roger van Hoy, '55DeSoto, '42DeSoto, '66Plymouth, '73 Duster >Paid too much for all of them, paid too much for parts, spent too much = >time >fixing them--so what? > > -----Original Message----- >From: Ron Dulmage < dulmage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx < L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 9:30 PM >Subject: [FWDLK] RIP OFF OLD LADY COMMENTS > > >If the comments about ripping off a little old lady were in reference = >to the >car that had the potential to sell for 1200 bucks or more when it was = >parted >out but someone was going to make an offer for $200. then you are = >really >making me mad. >=A0 >Let me tell you that dreamers hope to sell cars for the sum value of = >parts. >Typically they won't part them out, no they sit there with the junk on = >their >front yard till you no what freezes over and nobody benefits. The = >cheapest >part of any restoration had better be the purchase price cause the real = >cost >doesn't start till after that. There is no rip off in a fair exchange >between two parties. Whatever they agree on is fair exchange. I = >challenge >anybody who thinks the other party is being had to step up to the plate = >and >ante up. I am sick of people advising folks that their old crates have = >big >value. As is, as they sit they don't.Let them restore them, absorb the = >cost, >then they have value. Potential value is just that, potential and until >someone takes the action to promote and sell the parts individually it = >is >nothing more than unrealized potential. Absolutely useless. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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