Re: [FWDLK] 56-58 Fury carbs...

John,

I suspect you are probably correct about the generally restricted access to unlisted race parts, even if you had a part number. However, that may not have always been the case. I have an NOS never been used 1956 Dodge D-500-1 aluminum Kiekaefer-designed intake with no heat cross-over passage: #1733 878. I bought it from a fellow who ordered a new 1956 Dodge D-500-1 through a dealer. The car arrived as a standard D500 single 4 bbl. So, he ordered the 2x4 manifold through the dealer, but never put it on the car. I bought it from him 20 years ago. Rumor has it that they only made 100 of these.

Dave Homstad

56 Dodge D500

On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 9:33 AM, John Hagen wrote:

The cast iron manifold with 2631 and 2632 carbs .

Well I didn’t get real involved with Mopar Parts but in those days there was no high performance parts book or a “Direct Connection.” One parts book albeit there were heavy duty parts and some “export” pieces. If the average guy went to a Mopar Parts distributor the counter person would look up what was called for per your particular vehicle. If you got a smart guy who dug fast cars he would be able to find the kind of stuff you were looking for. Most dealers had at least one guy like that.

However, even if the guy could dig up the proper part numbers chances are you wouldn’t be able to get them as there would be no stock. Of course if your name happened to be Norm Nelson stock would magically be found. In the case of a dual quad set-up for your ’57 or ’58 318, they would generally be available as they were standard production parts. If you wanted to buy the aluminum intake with the #2442 carbs you would be S.O.L. by 1957 or 1958 as these were very limited pieces used solely for the 1956 cars during the current racing season. Having a fast ’56 Fury in “57 and especially in “58 did nothing to boost the “Win on Sunday, sell on Monday” mind set. There was no need what-so-ever to continue selling high priced, out sourced aluminum manifolds with no heat provisions that required both carbs to have chokes and, frankly, would be a real pain to drive in normal street use. Yes there were those that did it but for a R.P.O. item it would have to appeal to a much larger audience. Ergo, the “57 introduction of heated, cast iron manifolds designed for progressive linkage with but one carb having a choke and, most likely, an idle circuit.

Witness history repeating itself in 1970 when the Six-Pack cars came with cast iron intakes and had closeable cold air intakes. The 1969 set-up was great for the foreseen limited production of the mid-year models but when they became normal R.P.O. items cost and drivability became very important considerations.

John Hagen

From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adam Lindenbaum

Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 7:49 AM

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Subject: Re: [FWDLK] 56-58 Fury carbs...

Now here is the big question, if you bought a complete over the counter 2x4 set up in '57 or '58 would you get the aluminum manifold with 2442 carbs or a cast iron manifold with 2631 and 2632 carbs?

Adam

In a message dated 12/22/2013 2:28:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, esierraadj@xxxxxxxxxxxwrites:

So, to reiterate my understanding of your messages;

1956 Dualie Fury: 2442 front & rear (both units have chokes and work

together

1957 Fury: 2631s (front; no choke) 2632s (rear; primary/choke)

1958 318 Fury: early (same as above)

1958 318 Fury: late 2761s (front; no choke) 2762s (rear; primary/choke)

Right?

Neil Vedder

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