Re: [FWDLK] Transmission Question
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Re: [FWDLK] Transmission Question

When I wanted to put a radio in our 56 Plymouth, I remember my father saying "Radios belong in the living room, not in cars". I still remember sitting in dad's new 54 Savoy in the shop at Leroy Motors while the mechanic removed the radio my Dad refused to accept.

Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Transmission Question

  For us older folks who remember those people not now with us who began driving in the 20's and lived through the depression, there 
existed a much larger contingent of people who were much more frugal in how they went through life.  They may have had no shortage 
of money, but they lived a discipline that would make people today think they were destitute paupers.  My Grandfather was like this. Money 
really was no object for him, yet his last car, like the one before it, was a special ordered stripper, devoid of all goodies except a heater.
I can still hear him ranting about how "dangerous" it was to have a radio in a car because it was so distracting to the driver.  He was a 
no nonsense/ all about personal responsibility kind of guy.  Not that he didn't have a strong sense of humor.  He was quite the prankster.
But there was this frugal nature about him in there too.  Many of the oldtimers on my paper route were carbon copies of this personality.
Something you just don't see anymore in much of American culture.

  Burger

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On Apr 29, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Roger van Hoy wrote:

Or they figured that the grammas and grampas who wanted the old old flathead six weren’t in any hurry to get to the grocery store.  And the taxi drivers were looking for economy and reliability.
 
--Roger van Hoy
 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Transmission Question
 
Don't know, it really doesn't take a notable amount of power to operate, same pump size/pressure as far as parasitic loss is concerned.. TF does weigh at least 25lbs more, matching converter was also heavier and larger diameter.. perhaps the engineers felt the added weight of the trans as well as the rotational drag or centripital force created with the larger converter wasn't worth the loss at cruising, at 1:1 over the added pep felt off the line with a more advantageous cumulative ratio at breakaway... 

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From: "Ron Waters" <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [FWDLK] Transmission Question
Date: Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:02 pm

 
As long as we're on the topic, any theories as to why the TF tranny was never offered with the flattie ?
 
Ron
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Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Transmission Question
 
Very nice mods Jim!
 
We also have a new modification in the making to allow the use of a 4” Mopar Stroker crank in the early engines and yet still run a cast iron Torqueflite for the ultimate stealth activity.
 
Gary P.
 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Transmission Question
 
On a poly block app, my favorite trick is to run a 57 air cooled bell housing and air powerflite converter with a 58 liquid cooled torqueflite trans with all my 300 spec+ mods I've created.. twice the cooling, and added stall works well with custom cams up to the 290ish duration territory. I even get anywhere from a chirp to another set of tire marks into second... (.040 over FLP8 w nielson cam, extrude honed and port matched dual quad intake, minor head porting and valve mods)
Gary Pavlovich knows what I'm talking about :)
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From: "Dave Homstad" <dhomstad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [FWDLK] Transmission Question
Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 3:10 pm


No! 1st gear in a TorqueFlite is 42% lower than in a PowerFlite. No way 
a 200 rpm increase in torque converter stall speed will make up for 
that. I've had both a PF and TF in my 56 Dodge. The TF is MUCH faster 
off the line!

Dave Homstad
56 D500


On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Eastern Sierra Adjustment Svc wrote:

> The PowerFlites have higher stall speeds in their torque
> converters, so they accelerate more quickly than the T/Flite, 
> making-up
> for the lack of the T/Flite's low gear.
>
> A P/Flite is essentially a T/F, but without a 1st gear.
>
>
> Neil Vedder
>
>
>
> On 4/28/2013 10:26 AM, Brent Burger wrote:
>>    I did not know this !
>>
>>    TF's were app'd behind slant sixes.  I have handled a number of 
>> them over the years.
>>
>>    Burger
>>
>> =======================================
>>
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Ron Waters wrote:
>>
>>> Only the powerflite or 3-on-the-tree manual transmissions were 
>>> available with the flathead 6.
>>>   Ron
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Allen Faltus
>>> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:31 PM
>>> Subject: [FWDLK] Transmission Question
>>>
>>> I am wondering if the 57 through 59 Torqflite transmissions were 
>>> used in the 230-6 cyl plymouths and dodges?  Or did those cars just 
>>> use the 2 speed powerflites?
>>>   Thanks, Allen
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