When I first purchased my 1958 Plymouth years ago, it was missing the glass
bowl. If the car sat for more than a day or two, it would take forever to
start. Once I added the glass bowl, it corrected the problem. Just recently,
I started the car for the first time in about a month. The glass bowl was
full of fuel and it started within five seconds.
In the case of a dual quad setup such as on the 300C, I've seen one glass
bowl filter for each carb.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hagen" <sprinthag@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Lack of glass bowl fuel filter and hard starting
Simple fact that there is a goodly supply of fuel that close to the carbs
should help. Them modern filters don't have all that much fuel in them
and, as they are almost always at an angle, if not near vertical chances
are what fuel there is drains back. I would chance a guess that it would
take at least twice the amount of time turning over to fully charge the
carbs without the fuel contained in the filter bowl. Especially since
having one seems to have resolved at least one persons problem.
John Hagen
-----Original Message-----
From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List
[mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Homstad
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:30 PM
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Lack of glass bowl fuel filter and hard starting
Dave,
I can't see where a glass bowl fuel filter makes any difference. My car
has one with dual WCFBs. If there is fuel in the carbs, it starts
instantly, but that is due to the high voltage ignition coil. It will fire
any fuel/air ratio mixture.
If the car has been sitting for a long time, like over the winter, the
carbs are dry. The starter must turn over about 10 seconds to pump enough
fuel into the carbs to start. I like to crank it for about 10 seconds and
then stop, so when I set the choke, the accelerator pump diaphragm is not
running on dry walls of the pump well and it makes a full shot of fuel.
One stroke, one start.
I thought about using an electric pump so I wouldn't need the 10 seconds
of cranking to pump fuel. But I decided that the cranking pumps oil into
the bearings, lifters etc., and builds oil pressure up to 40+ lbs.
Better than starting an engine quickly with no oil anywhere after draining
down all winter.
The only advantage (other than filtering fuel) I see to a glass bowl
filter is it may help to dampen the pressure pulses from a mechanical
pump. Mine always has a little air trapped at the top, which should
compress under a pressure pulse and then provide a continuous pressure to
push the fuel through the needle & seat with a more even flow.
Dave Homstad
56 Dodge D500
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Dave Stragand wrote:
Just wanted to do a little poll. For those of you with the hard start
problems being discussed recently, do you still have the glass bowl
filter installed? I had the same issues, but a fellow forward looker
suggested it was due to my missing glass bowl filter. True enough,
since I reinstalled one, the problem is resolved.
-Dave
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