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CanMan & All!
I sent the email below to see if there is any interest in Koni shocks for our 1957-1964 Mopars. So far, not including ole CanMan, I have heard interest in the Koni shocks totaling four and a half car sets. Only 45.5 sets to go!! The Koni US factory representative said fifty CAR SETS would be the minimum amount required to have the factory in Holland make a production run. Konis are an adjustable, super-premium shock at a super-premium price, used on many expensive high-speed European sports cars because of their superior control characteristics - a car set of four shocks for many cars often runs $600 or more. I know it is nearly impossible to convince someone who is used to paying $15/each for shocks that one could be worth 10x the price. Heck, even the KYBs, which I like very much and have on a couple of my early 60s Mopars and other cars, are beyond the pale for many at $30-$40 each - and they are well-worth the price in improved handling. I find it a little irritating that the KYBs are made in the Far East, though, but they have proven to be a long-lasting, well-made product. At least the Konis are made in Holland. To tell the story in more detail, I've only had Koni shocks on one car, a 1962 Morgan Plus/4. When I got the car in 1980, with well over 100,000 miles on it, I ordered Konis right away. Much to my surprise, when I cleaned off the surface rust on the old shocks, they too were Konis, with a 1964 date of manufacture on them! The new ones I installed hardly made a difference, and the old ones still had one more "click" of adjustment left on them to stiffen up the rebound action, even being 16 years old at the time. I was impressed, and drove that car 65,000 miles in my ownership, with never a concern about shocks. One thing that just came to mind - There are US manufacturers that are making high-performance shocks for the likes of Camaros, Mustangs, etc., - I wonder if any of them would take a look at a set of KYBs as an example, and come up with a shock for us? Maybe there's a close fit that can be adapted - I'm messing around with a '72 Pinto wagon (who knows why?!), and installed KYBs all around - I had read, and since confirmed, that 1980s Camaro rear shocks fit and work very well on the rear of the Pinto. Cheers. John Spiers From: Alumcantandthd <alumcantandthd@xxxxxxx> To: spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, July 25, 2011 10:06:05 PM Subject: Re: [FWDLK] [Chrysler300] Shocks - Koni How many do you have signed up, to get a set?
How soon is this gonna happen?
Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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From: John <spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, Jul 22, 2011 10:02 am Subject: Re: [FWDLK] [Chrysler300] Shocks - Koni To continue forward with this discussion about shock absorbers at the 300 Club listserver:
Koni once made front and rear shocks to fit our cars. I recall having read a thread on the Imperial Club's website. I found it, and here it is, complete with misspellings: Tip from Philippe:
So I sent an email to Koni North America, inquiring about the above mentioned part numbers. Here is the reply:
Paul McLaughlin Koni Shock Absorbers ITT Corporation Racing Technical Sales Rep. 1961A International Way Hebron, Ky. 41048 800-922-2616 option 6 --- I checked on prices of Koni shocks. They are much more than the KYBs - for example, on Koni's website, a pair of front shocks for a 1970 Dodge Challenger lists for $320/pair (online price, $240) and the rear pair list for $380 (online price, $285). And they do go for upwards of $500/pair in some cases. To make the minimum order, I think it would be difficult to convince a total of 50 people worldwide, between both 300 clubs, the Imperial Club, both Christine clubs, and all the members of the Forwardlook list, to drop $600 on a set of Koni shocks, when there are discussions of the KYBs being far too expensive at over $100/set . . . and I wouldn't drive another one of these cars without at least KYBs on it. The difference, to you who don't know, is like AM radio versus satellite radio. I personally would buy at least 2 sets of the Konis, after experiencing the profound difference of KYBs, and knowing the Konis are another quantum leap forward - I've only run them 65,000 miles on one car I've owned (a '62 Morgan +4) and was very impressed. One important and interesting feature of the Konis, is that they are adjustable for firmness/softness in their rebound action. http://www.koni-na.com/comp.cfm Cheers, John Spiers From: Bill Huff <czbill@xxxxxxxxxx> To: Michael Moore <mmoore8425@xxxxxxx>; Tony Bevacqua <tonysru2@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Marshall Larson <granitledge@xxxxxxxxx>; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 9:27:35 PM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Shocks. There are some H.D. choices out there. Not many cheap one though.
http://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-Heavy-Duty-Shock-Absorber/dp/B001HIAMWU/ref=au_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=300%7C2489&n=15684181&s=automotive&Make=Chrysler%7C39&Year=1970%7C1970&newCar=1&carId=001 Bill Huff At 7/21/201111:58 AM, Michael Moore wrote: >I installed those on my 300H and was grateful to get them. >I wish they were stiffer though. >Its almost as though there are no shocks on the car, but insofar as >I know, that's all thats available.I wish Koni made a set to fit. >Mike Moore >300H > > >On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Tony Bevacqua wrote: > > > KYB shocks. KG4507 and KG 5511 are the correct ones. I just made a > > purchase for my 57 (shocks are correct for 1957 to 1964, I believe). > > $116.32 for the 4 shocks, plus handling, etc. > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of Marshall Larson > > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:26 AM > > To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [Chrysler300] Shocks. > > > > Any suggestions for an appropriate brand and model of shocks for a G. I > > don't need anything exotic, just proper ride and to deal with the radials > > that are on the car. All suggestions appreciated. > > > > MN Marshall > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > To send a message to this group, send an email to: > > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or > > go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and select the > > "Leave Group" button > > > > For list server instructions, go to > > http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > > > > For archives go to > > http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! Groups > > Links > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >------------------------------------ > >To send a message to this group, send an email to: >Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or >go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and >select the "Leave Group" button > >For list server instructions, go to >http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm > >For archives go to >http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! Groups Links > > > __._,_.___
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