I'm sorry, I should have been thinking with my brain instead of my anger, there are a lot of home brewed street rods out there that are built without catalog parts, I know, I worked in a shop building them many years ago, not every street rod is a plastic '32 Ford on a store bought chassis with a 350 crate motor, it just seems like the majority is and that's what my reference was to.
Adam Lindenbaum
-----Original Message-----
From: mesamotorsports <mesamotorsports@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: AdamL57 <AdamL57@xxxxxxx>; L-FORWARDLOOK <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 1:01 am
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Restoration & Preservation.
Adam,
I was with you until you "slammed" Street Rodders. I guess it didn't take some
amount of engineering, fabricating, brains and trial and error for me to shoe
horn a Dodge 340 Challenger motor into a '40 Ford. I don't remember seeing any
catalogs with the necessary parts I needed for that engine swap! Or maybe my
'40 Ford is a Hot Rod??? Point is: Can't we all just get along?
--
Charles White
---- Adam Lindenbaum <AdamL57@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Sorry but nothing on my cars are bought from a catalog. Real hot rods are
> built with parts from other cars, machining, fabricating, ect. My AFB carbs,
> cams, fuel lines and fittings are my only catalog parts. Try making AMC
> Hornet brakes or Aspen brakes fit a 57 or 58 Plymouth, it takes work, brains,
> trial and error. Hand make a set of headers, make motor mounts out of
> scrap steel to put a HEMI in a '58 Plymouth or a 318 in a Model A frame, then
> talk to me about how "hard"restoring a car is, like I said I've restored and
> hot rodded cars, I worked in a shop that did both. A frame off restoration
> is no big deal unless you start with a total piece of crap, the car comes
> apart and goes back together the same way, cleaned, repainted, and
> repaired, but the same way. Street Rodders use catalogs, Hot Rodders build
cars.
> Adam Lindenbaum
>
> In a message dated 1/26/2011 3:20:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> esierraadj@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> I've got to disagree, respectfully, but ADAMENTLY, with Adam's assertion
> that it is
> so all-powerd-ly difficult to create a "hot rod" out of a FWDLK'er,
> compared to the
> 100% restoration of a FWDLK'er (assuming an identical #1
> final-condition end result concerning
> both versions of that same hypothetical car).
>
> We all know that there is, essentially, only one way, and one part,
> which will restore a FWDLK'er
> correctly, and that each part's condition (mechanical-physical) WILL
> vary considerably from another
> one of it.
>
> That's not quite true, in the creation of a "hot rod", which tends to
> use all-newly made parts on it.
>
> Restoration involves boots on the ground scrounging; Hot Rodding
> involves catalog subscriptions.
>
> NOW, somebody could, clearly, spend some mega-bucks in the creation of a
> hot rod (the mind
> boggles with the infinite possibilities) out of a FWDLK'er, compared to
> its correct restoration
> costs.
>
> But, as far as PITA-difficulty is concerned, if a true #1 condition
> restoration is concerned, compared
> to a #1-condition hot rod, all that the rodder needs is a fat wallet and
> somebody's skilled labor,
> compared with the restorer's blood/sweat/tears/research/luck AND a fat
> wallet and some skilled labor.
>
> It's all our own cars (custodianship) to do whatever we want to do to
> them, but, don't expect me to get
> all misty-eyed over looking at 'your' car's chromed chain-link steering
> wheel and 20" 'spinner' wheels.
>
> And, this has NOTHING to do with Adam's cars, I'm just addressing his
> argument----my own ride has
> quite a few (non-obvious) modifications (hot-rodding..) to it, during my
> 30+ years custodianship of it.
>
> Neil Vedder
>
>
>
>
>
> Lindenbaum wrote:
> > And letting them sit in junkyards, backyards, and driveways rotting is
> > better than building hot rods! Makes sense to me. Why does the
> > concours d'elegance show have classes for hot rods if they are so
> > evil? I love my cars, more than most of you probably love yours, they
> > are HOT RODS. One was a one owner, original paint, unmolested '58 318
> > 2x4 Fury up until the late '80s, I'm more proud of that car and my now
> > passed on friend who built it than most of you could imagine, I'm glad
> > it offends narrow minded puritans like yourselves. I appreciate cars,
> > stock, hot rods, kustoms, whatever, nice is nice, period. I guess
> > that's why hot rodders are more popular and common, we like
> > everything, puritans feel we should all think like them. And we bust
> > our asses working on our cars just as much,if not more so don't give
> > me this " It takes more work to restore a car" crap! I've done both,
> > it takes more engineering and fabrication to build a safe, reliable
> > hot rod than to clean up or replace parts that were meant to be bolted
> > to that specific car..
> > Adam Lindenbaum
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Louis Rugani <x779@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: L-FORWARDLOOK <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 9:41 am
> > Subject: [FWDLK] Restoration & Preservation.
> >
> > It's all about where and with whom one associates. The prestigious
> > AACA is still the biggest old-car group, where historical accuracy and
> > correctness is both sought and celebrated, just the same as the
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