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1. 56 Fury linkage vs 57 Fury Linkage (5)
2. Fwd: Check out
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3. headliner repl ??? (4)
4. [GFS] headliner repl ??? (2)
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:51:31 EST
From: Archangel1390@xxxxxxx
Subject: 56 Fury linkage vs 57 Fury Linkage
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Nick,
If the dual quad manifold is the 1956 Fury aluminum manifold
without the automatic chock heat tube, then you must run straight
linkage to
make the engine gets gas to the front and back cylinders. If the
manifold is
1957 or 1958 dual quad manifold made of cast iron and has the chock
heat
tube then you can run progressive linkage or straight linkage.
The front part of the 56 Fury aluminum manifold and the back
part
of the manifold has a wall inside it that separates the rear
carburetor from
feeding the front 4 cylinders.
The most important thing you can do is make sure you are
getting
full throttle when the pedal is to the metal. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE
THE
RETURN SPRINGS. THEY MUST BE RIGHT ALSO FOR FULL THROTTLE.
Ron Swartley
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:46:48 -0500
From: jrawa@xxxxxxx
Subject: Fwd: Check out http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/03/57ChryslerLimo-S
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i have to pass, even though my garage holds 30 cars... this would
put 3=
out of a spot i figure!
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:13:23 -0800
From: Eastern Sierra Adjustment Svc <esierraadj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 56 Fury linkage vs 57 Fury Linkage
Is this such a bad thing, for the engine, to have gas be delivered,
initially, only to the rear
cylinders? The front cylinders are still getting the oil supplied
to them.
The new Hardly Dangerous motor cycles have a provision where, at
prolonged stoppages,
the rear cylinder has its fuel supply interrupted, in order to avoid
any
overheating of the engine.
And, we all know about the current V/8-6-4 provisions on modern cars.
So, outside of a racing venue (yeah, like any of us do that, anymore),
what difference/effect would
there be, using the 56 aluminum intake, with a progressive linkage
employed, with 57+ m.y. carbs,
wherein the front carb begins to supply gas when the rear carb's
primaries open to about 30%?
BTW, I've got an old (what other kinds are there?) issue of Hot Rod,
where it shows you how to
adjust your 57+ linages so that all 8 barrels operate in the manner of
the 55-56 versions.
Neil Vedder
Archangel1390@xxxxxxx wrote:
*Nick,*
**
* If the dual quad manifold is the 1956 Fury aluminum
manifold
without the automatic chock heat tube, _then you must run straight
linkage to make the engine gets gas to the front and back cylinders._
If the manifold is 1957 or 1958 dual quad manifold made of cast iron
and has the chock heat tube then you can run progressive linkage or
straight linkage.*
* The front part of the 56 Fury aluminum manifold and the back
part of the manifold has a wall inside it that separates the rear
carburetor from feeding the front 4 cylinders.*
* The most important thing you can do is make sure you are
_getting full throttle_ when the pedal is to the metal. DO NOT
UNDERESTIMATE THE RETURN SPRINGS. THEY MUST BE RIGHT ALSO FOR FULL
THROTTLE.*
**
* Ron Swartley*
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:40:38 -0500
From: DOLORES ECKERSON <eddee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: headliner repl ???
HELLO MEMBERS
I need your advice
I am thinking of taking a giant leap of faith and replace the
headliner
on a 58 FURY.
QUESTION---What are the options for replacement headliners???
Has anyone ever tried to 'PAINT' the middle piece if it was in pretty
good condition??
THANKS IN ADVANCE
ED ECKERSON
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:18:53 EST
From: Bjwt56@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [GFS] headliner repl ???
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Ed:
I don't know about the 58's, but I put the headliner in my 56 by
myself. All I did was put the bows in the headliner and then in
their proper
holes along the roof rail. Then just tighten it up after putting 3M
upholstry
cement on the roof rail and around the front and rear windows. When
it is
all nice and tight, trim off the excess material and VOLA!! You
have a new
headliner.
John
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I don't know about the 58's, but I put the
headli=
ner in my 56 by myself. All I did was put the bows in the
headliner=
and then in their proper holes along the roof rail. Then just
tight=
en it up after putting 3M upholstry cement on the roof rail and
around the=
front and rear windows. When it is all nice and tight, trim
off the=
excess material and VOLA!! You have a new headliner.<BR>
<BR>
John</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:45:17 -0500
From: adaml57@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [GFS] headliner repl ???
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The Fury headliner is cardboard, not material, I know Mel advertises
them=
. As for painting them, my left and right panels were painted black
back=
in the late "80s to match the interior in my Fury (black and gray)
and it=
's still holding up fine. I have no idea what my friend Charlie used
on th=
em and since he has passed away I can't find out for you.
Adam Lindenbaum
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Ed:
I don't know about the 58's, but I put the headliner in my 56 by
myse=
lf. All I did was put the bows in the headliner and then in their
proper=
holes along the roof rail. Then just tighten it up after putting 3M
upho=
lstry cement on the roof rail and around the front and rear
windows. When=
it is all nice and tight, trim off the excess material and VOLA!!
You ha=
ve a new headliner.
John
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y headliner is cardboard, not material, I know Mel advertises them.
As for=
painting them, my left and right panels were painted black back in
the la=
te "80s to match the interior in my Fury (black and gray) and it's
still=
holding up fine. I have no idea what my friend Charlie used on them
and=
since he has passed away I can't find out for you.<br>
Adam Lindenbaum<br>
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I don't know about the 58's, but I put the
headli=
ner in my 56 by myself. All I did was put the bows in the
headliner=
and then in their proper holes along the roof rail. Then just
tight=
en it up after putting 3M upholstry cement on the roof rail and
around the=
front and rear windows. When it is all nice and tight, trim
off the=
excess material and VOLA!! You have a new headliner.<br>
<br>
John</font></font>
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:28:51 -0500
From: jrawa@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: headliner repl ???
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very carefully wire brush it- just to flake off the orig paint and
expose=
as much of the tan/brown substrate as possible. use thompsons water
seal=
on it- if it is bowed- wet it real good, and weight it down flat-
once it=
dries in the right shape, then use the thompsons. paint it with
house pa=
int, slightly thinned, sprayed with a wagner sprayer, or do a nice
neat jo=
b with a smooth roller.
5 done, pics if curious.
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From: DOLORES ECKERSON <eddee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, Nov 24, 2009 2:40 pm
Subject: [FWDLK] headliner repl ???
HELLO MEMBERS=20
I need your advice=20
=20
I am thinking of taking a giant leap of faith and replace the
headliner on=
a 58 FURY.=20
=20
QUESTION---What are the options for replacement headliners???=20
=20
Has anyone ever tried to 'PAINT' the middle piece if it was in
pretty good=
condition??=20
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<div>very carefully wire brush it- just to flake off the orig paint
and ex=
pose as much of the tan/brown substrate as possible. use
thompsons=
water seal on it- if it is bowed- wet it real good, and weight it
down fl=
at- once it dries in the right shape, then use the thompsons.
paint=
it with house paint, slightly thinned, sprayed with a wagner
sprayer, or=
do a nice neat job with a smooth roller.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>5 done, pics if curious.<br>
<br>
<br>
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I need your advice <br>
<br>
I am thinking of taking a giant leap of faith and replace the
headliner on=
a 58 FURY. <br>
<br>
QUESTION---What are the options for replacement headliners???
<br>
<br>
Has anyone ever tried to 'PAINT' the middle piece if it was in
pretty good=
condition?? <br>
<br>
THANKS IN ADVANCE <br>
ED ECKERSON <br>
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:34:09 -0500
From: Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: headliner repl ???
Ed -
I painted mine with SEM Super White 15103, a rattle can paint with a
flex
agent. Very good quality and very happy with results.
I brushed all the loose paint off beforehand with a stiff nylon
bristled
brush, such as one you would use to clean whitewall tires.
Ron
HELLO MEMBERS
I need your advice
I am thinking of taking a giant leap of faith and replace the
headliner on
a 58 FURY.
QUESTION---What are the options for replacement headliners???
Has anyone ever tried to 'PAINT' the middle piece if it was in
pretty good
condition??
THANKS IN ADVANCE
ED ECKERSON
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:48:45 -0800
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike72@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 56 Fury linkage vs 57 Fury Linkage
If the '56 type intake manifold has a divided plenum under the carbs,
and you're driving along with just the rear primaries open, the front
intake plenum will be under a high manifold vacuum condition because
the front four cylinders are functioning as a vacuum pump driven by
the rear cylinders. The gas mileage will be worse because the
throttle needs to be open farther to drag the front half of the
engine along. There will also be plenty of vacuum to suck oil past
the rings and also suck gasoline through the idle circuits in the
front carb, to mix with it.
The V/8-6-4 engines work because they have provisions for
de-activating the valve lifters in those cylinders to elimination
energy draining pumping loses (vacuum).
The second generation hemi (426) has a four-stage throttle linkage
installed, it's fairly complicated, with links installed on both
sides of the carbs. Next time you see a 60s Hemi musclecar at a car
show, take a squint at the top of the engine and you'll see what I
mean.
I
Mike
At 11:13 AM 11/24/2009, Eastern Sierra Adjustment Svc wrote:
Is this such a bad thing, for the engine, to have gas be delivered,
initially, only to the rear
cylinders? The front cylinders are still getting the oil supplied
to them.
The new Hardly Dangerous motor cycles have a provision where, at
prolonged stoppages,
the rear cylinder has its fuel supply interrupted, in order to avoid
any overheating of the engine.
And, we all know about the current V/8-6-4 provisions on modern cars.
So, outside of a racing venue (yeah, like any of us do that,
anymore), what difference/effect would
there be, using the 56 aluminum intake, with a progressive linkage
employed, with 57+ m.y. carbs,
wherein the front carb begins to supply gas when the rear carb's
primaries open to about 30%?
BTW, I've got an old (what other kinds are there?) issue of Hot Rod,
where it shows you how to
adjust your 57+ linages so that all 8 barrels operate in the manner
of the 55-56 versions.
Neil Vedder
Archangel1390@xxxxxxx wrote:
*Nick,*
** * If the dual quad manifold is the 1956 Fury aluminum
manifold without the automatic chock heat tube, _then you must run
straight linkage to make the engine gets gas to the front and back
cylinders._ If the manifold is 1957 or 1958 dual quad manifold made
of cast iron and has the chock heat tube then you can run
progressive linkage or straight linkage.*
* The front part of the 56 Fury aluminum manifold and the
back part of the manifold has a wall inside it that separates the
rear carburetor from feeding the front 4 cylinders.*
* The most important thing you can do is make sure you are
_getting full throttle_ when the pedal is to the metal. DO NOT
UNDERESTIMATE THE RETURN SPRINGS. THEY MUST BE RIGHT ALSO FOR FULL
THROTTLE.*
** * Ron Swartley*
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:04:30 -0800
From: Eastern Sierra Adjustment Svc <esierraadj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 56 Fury linkage vs 57 Fury Linkage
Thanks, Mike!
Now, for a purely hypothetical question (not personally involving me,
but, for general
information): If a person wanted to run his car with that aluminum
intake, with the
progressive 57+ carbs/linkages, how tough would it be to use a
90-degree cutter/
tool to open up the internal plenum division(s), sufficiently, so
that
those carbs and linkages
could effectively be used with that intake?
Neil Vedder
Mike Apfelbeck wrote:
If the '56 type intake manifold has a divided plenum under the carbs,
and you're driving along with just the rear primaries open, the front
intake plenum will be under a high manifold vacuum condition because
the front four cylinders are functioning as a vacuum pump driven by
the rear cylinders. The gas mileage will be worse because the
throttle
needs to be open farther to drag the front half of the engine along.
There will also be plenty of vacuum to suck oil past the rings and
also suck gasoline through the idle circuits in the front carb, to
mix
with it.
The V/8-6-4 engines work because they have provisions for
de-activating the valve lifters in those cylinders to elimination
energy draining pumping loses (vacuum).
The second generation hemi (426) has a four-stage throttle linkage
installed, it's fairly complicated, with links installed on both
sides
of the carbs. Next time you see a 60s Hemi musclecar at a car show,
take a squint at the top of the engine and you'll see what I mean.
I
Mike
At 11:13 AM 11/24/2009, Eastern Sierra Adjustment Svc wrote:
Is this such a bad thing, for the engine, to have gas be delivered,
initially, only to the rear
cylinders? The front cylinders are still getting the oil supplied
to
them.
The new Hardly Dangerous motor cycles have a provision where, at
prolonged stoppages,
the rear cylinder has its fuel supply interrupted, in order to avoid
any overheating of the engine.
And, we all know about the current V/8-6-4 provisions on modern
cars.
So, outside of a racing venue (yeah, like any of us do that,
anymore), what difference/effect would
there be, using the 56 aluminum intake, with a progressive linkage
employed, with 57+ m.y. carbs,
wherein the front carb begins to supply gas when the rear carb's
primaries open to about 30%?
BTW, I've got an old (what other kinds are there?) issue of Hot Rod,
where it shows you how to
adjust your 57+ linages so that all 8 barrels operate in the manner
of the 55-56 versions.
Neil Vedder
Archangel1390@xxxxxxx wrote:
*Nick,*
** * If the dual quad manifold is the 1956 Fury aluminum
manifold without the automatic chock heat tube, _then you must run
straight linkage to make the engine gets gas to the front and back
cylinders._ If the manifold is 1957 or 1958 dual quad manifold made
of cast iron and has the chock heat tube then you can run
progressive linkage or straight linkage.*
* The front part of the 56 Fury aluminum manifold and the
back
part of the manifold has a wall inside it that separates the rear
carburetor from feeding the front 4 cylinders.*
* The most important thing you can do is make sure you are
_getting full throttle_ when the pedal is to the metal. DO NOT
UNDERESTIMATE THE RETURN SPRINGS. THEY MUST BE RIGHT ALSO FOR FULL
THROTTLE.*
** * Ron Swartley*
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:09:59 -0800
From: JAMES FABER <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 56 Fury linkage vs 57 Fury Linkage
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=A0Hate to hijack your thread but I've been a reader not a sender,
don't kn=
ow the procedure.
=A0Point is I have a NIB Mopar switch No. 3747322 that I can't ID.
If someo=
ne can ID it and use it, it's for sale, offer ?
=A0Thanks, Jim Faber South Carolina
--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike72@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike72@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] 56 Fury linkage vs 57 Fury Linkage
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 7:48 PM
If the '56 type intake manifold has a divided plenum under the
carbs, and y=
ou're driving along with just the rear primaries open, the front
intake ple=
num will be under a high manifold vacuum condition because the front
four c=
ylinders are functioning as a vacuum pump driven by the rear
cylinders. The=
gas mileage will be worse because the throttle needs to be open
farther to=
drag the front half of the engine along. There will also be plenty
of vacu=
um to suck oil past the rings and also suck gasoline through the
idle circu=
its in the front carb, to mix with it.
The V/8-6-4 engines work because they have provisions for de-
activating the=
valve lifters in those cylinders to elimination energy draining
pumping lo=
ses (vacuum).
The second generation hemi (426) has a four-stage throttle linkage
installe=
d, it's fairly complicated, with links installed on both sides of
the carbs=
. Next time you see a 60s Hemi musclecar at a car show, take a
squint at th=
e top of the engine and you'll see what I mean.
I
Mike
At 11:13 AM 11/24/2009, Eastern Sierra Adjustment Svc wrote:
Is this such a bad thing, for the engine, to have gas be delivered,
initi=
ally, only to the rear
cylinders?=A0 The front cylinders are still getting the oil
supplied to t=
hem.
=20
The new Hardly Dangerous=A0 motor cycles have a provision where, at
prolo=
nged stoppages,
the rear cylinder has its fuel supply interrupted, in order to
avoid any =
overheating of the engine.
=20
And, we all know about the current V/8-6-4 provisions on modern cars.
=20
So, outside of a racing venue (yeah, like any of us do that,
anymore), wh=
at difference/effect would
there be, using the 56 aluminum intake,=A0 with a progressive
linkage emp=
loyed, with 57+ m.y. carbs,
wherein the front carb begins to supply gas when the rear carb's
primarie=
s open to about 30%?
=20
BTW, I've got an old (what other kinds are there?) issue of Hot
Rod, wher=
e it shows you how to
adjust your 57+ linages so that all 8 barrels operate in the manner
of th=
e 55-56 versions.
=20
=20
Neil Vedder
=20
=20
=20
Archangel1390@xxxxxxx wrote:
*Nick,*
** *=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0If the dual quad manifold=A0 is the 1956=A0
Fury al=
uminum manifold without the automatic chock heat tube, _then you
must run s=
traight linkage to make the engine gets gas to the front and back
cylinders=
._ If the manifold is 1957 or 1958 dual quad manifold made of cast
iron and=
has the chock heat tube then you can run progressive linkage or
straight l=
inkage.*
*=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0The front part of the 56 Fury aluminum manifold
and th=
e back part of the manifold has a wall inside it that separates the
rear ca=
rburetor from feeding the front 4 cylinders.*
*=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The most important thing you can do is make sure
you ar=
e _getting full throttle_ when the pedal is to the metal. DO NOT
UNDERESTIM=
ATE THE RETURN SPRINGS. THEY MUST BE RIGHT ALSO FOR FULL THROTTLE.*
** *=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0Ron Swartley*
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td
valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"> Hate to hijack your thread but
I've bee=
n a reader not a sender, don't know the procedure.<br> Point is
I have=
a NIB Mopar switch No. 3747322 that I can't ID. If someone can ID it
and u=
se it, it's for sale, offer ?<br> Thanks, Jim Faber South
Carolina<br>=
<br>--- On <b>Tue, 11/24/09, Mike Apfelbeck
<i><moparmike72@xxxxxxxxxxx&=
gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb
(16, 1=
6, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Mike
Apfelbeck <=
;moparmike72@xxxxxxxxxxx><br>Subject: Re: [FWDLK] 56 Fury linkage
vs 57 =
Fury Linkage<br>To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>Date: Tuesday,
November =
24, 2009, 7:48 PM<br><br><div class=3D"plainMail">If the '56 type
intake ma=
nifold has a divided plenum under the carbs, and you're driving
along with =
just the rear primaries open, the front intake plenum will be under
a high
manifold vacuum condition because the front four cylinders are
functioning=
as a vacuum pump driven by the rear cylinders. The gas mileage will
be wor=
se because the throttle needs to be open farther to drag the front
half of =
the engine along. There will also be plenty of vacuum to suck oil
past the =
rings and also suck gasoline through the idle circuits in the front
carb, t=
o mix with it.<br>The V/8-6-4 engines work because they have
provisions for=
de-activating the valve lifters in those cylinders to elimination
energy d=
raining pumping loses (vacuum).<br>The second generation hemi (426)
has a f=
our-stage throttle linkage installed, it's fairly complicated, with
links i=
nstalled on both sides of the carbs. Next time you see a 60s Hemi
musclecar=
at a car show, take a squint at the top of the engine and you'll see
what =
I mean.<br>I<br><br>Mike<br><br><br>At 11:13 AM 11/24/2009, Eastern
Sierra =
Adjustment Svc wrote:<br>> Is this such a bad thing, for the
engine, to have gas be delivered, initially, only to the
rear<br>> cyli=
nders? The front cylinders are still getting the oil supplied
to them=
.<br>> <br>> The new Hardly Dangerous motor cycles have
a provi=
sion where, at prolonged stoppages,<br>> the rear cylinder has
its fuel =
supply interrupted, in order to avoid any overheating of the
engine.<br>>=
; <br>> And, we all know about the current V/8-6-4 provisions on
modern =
cars.<br>> <br>> So, outside of a racing venue (yeah, like any
of us =
do that, anymore), what difference/effect would<br>> there be,
using the=
56 aluminum intake, with a progressive linkage employed, with
57+ m.=
y. carbs,<br>> wherein the front carb begins to supply gas when
the rear=
carb's primaries open to about 30%?<br>> <br>> BTW, I've got
an old =
(what other kinds are there?) issue of Hot Rod, where it shows you
how to<b=
r>> adjust your 57+ linages so that all 8 barrels operate in the
manner of the 55-56 versions.<br>> <br>> <br>> Neil
Vedder<br>>=
; <br>> <br>> <br>> <a ymailto=3D"mailto:Archangel1390@xxxxxxx
" hr=
ef=3D"/mc/compose?to=3DArchangel1390@xxxxxxx">Archangel1390@xxxxxxx</
a> wro=
te:<br>>> *Nick,*<br>>> ** *
If =
the dual quad manifold is the 1956 Fury aluminum
manifold witho=
ut the automatic chock heat tube, _then you must run straight
linkage to ma=
ke the engine gets gas to the front and back cylinders._ If the
manifold is=
1957 or 1958 dual quad manifold made of cast iron and has the chock
heat t=
ube then you can run progressive linkage or straight
linkage.*<br>>> =
* The front part of the 56 Fury
aluminum man=
ifold and the back part of the manifold has a wall inside it that
separates=
the rear carburetor from feeding the front 4 cylinders.*<br>>>
*&nbs=
p; The most important thing you can do is make
sure
you are _getting full throttle_ when the pedal is to the metal. DO
NOT UND=
ERESTIMATE THE RETURN SPRINGS. THEY MUST BE RIGHT ALSO FOR FULL
THROTTLE.*<=
br>>> ** *
&nb=
sp; Ron Swartley*<br>>> <br>>>
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:31:28 -0800
From: Thy Ramirez <kellyramirez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: headliner repl ???
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I brushed mine off with a nylon brush. Then I did 3 coats of white
Fusion p=
aint (spray paint) and it came out fine. I'm not sure if it's
rustoleum or =
Krylon paint. It can go on paper, card board and wiker. I found the
paint=
=A0at Wal-Mart. I hope this helps!=A0
=A0
--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] headliner repl ???
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:34 PM
Ed -
I painted mine with SEM Super White 15103, a rattle can paint with a
flex a=
gent. Very good quality and very happy with results.
I brushed all the loose paint off beforehand with a stiff nylon
bristled br=
ush, such as one you would use to clean whitewall tires.
Ron
HELLO MEMBERS
I need your advice
=20
I am thinking of taking a giant leap of faith and replace the
headliner o=
n a 58 FURY.
=20
QUESTION---What are the options for replacement headliners???
=20
Has anyone ever tried to 'PAINT' the middle piece if it was in
pretty goo=
d condition??
=20
THANKS IN ADVANCE
ED ECKERSON
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Then I=
did 3 coats of white Fusion paint (spray paint) and it came out
fine. I'm =
not sure if it's rustoleum or Krylon paint. It can go on paper, card
board =
and wiker. I found the paint at Wal-Mart. I hope this helps!
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<ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx><BR>S=
ubject: Re: [FWDLK] headliner repl ???<BR>To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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R>Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:34 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Ed -<BR><BR>I painted mine with SEM Super
White 1510=
3, a rattle can paint with a flex agent. Very good quality and very
happy w=
ith results.<BR><BR>I brushed all the loose paint off beforehand
with a sti=
ff nylon bristled brush, such as one you would use to clean
whitewall tires=
.<BR><BR>Ron<BR><BR><BR>> HELLO MEMBERS<BR>> I need your
advice<BR>&g=
t; <BR>> I am thinking of taking a giant leap of faith and
replace the h=
eadliner on a 58 FURY.<BR>> <BR>> QUESTION---What are the
options for=
replacement headliners???<BR>> <BR>> Has anyone ever tried to
'PAINT=
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