Re: [FWDLK] eBay Motors: Plymouth hemi in 1955...

[Mario Henry <henryma@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I thought something stunk in Denmark. I am so glad to have people like Bill 
on this list. I was questioning it but I am not as informed as the list 
members. Now I'm glad that reasoning and hard facts have cleared this up.

Mario Henry
1955 Plymouth Belvedere
Milton, Ontario

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson6@xxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] eBay Motors: Plymouth hemi in 1955...


> Being a Dodge engine it was not a Spitfire, a name used only by Chrysler. 
> Dodge hemis were Red Ram.
>
> The 1955 Plymouth, when introduced, used the 241.3-cid engine from the 
> 1953-54 Dodge, but with poly heads instead of hemi.  Plymouth dealers did 
> not have a conversion kit, although anyone could replace the poly heads 
> with Dodge hemi heads.  Late 1955 Plymouths used a bore out version of the 
> 241 for 260-cid,
>
> Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler all had their own hemi engines in the 1950's 
> with Dodge and Chrysler offering poly versions.  However, heads and 
> manifolds will not interchange between makes as the bore centres are 
> different (ie, the distance between the centre of each cylinder bore is 
> smallest on the Dodge and greatest on the Chrysler).
>
> Also, that air cleaner was not a 1950's Mopar piece.  Late 1960's or early 
> 1970's, but not in the 1950's.  Big, tall, oil bath air cleaners were used 
> in 1955.  And it is not from a 1950's Cadillac.  The Cadillac unit was 
> taller (oil bath, remember) and was more cylindrical, not as rectangular. 
> Also, first time I have seen an engine fan painted body colour.
>
> The cloth on the upholstery is not only sewn wrong, it is too light.  It 
> should be a darker green.  And someone has installed the inside door 
> handles wrong.  They should be pointing straight down, as was done in all 
> 1941-56 Chrysler Corp. cars.  Must have been done by some GM or Ford 
> fanatic.
>
> The instrument panel was repainted - it shines too much under the light. 
> The instrument panel was originally painted in a dark mat green wth a 
> stipple effect to eliminate glare.    That interior is not blue, but 
> two-tone green / blue-green.  My father had a 1955 Regent (think Plymouth 
> Savoy) done in the same interior colour scheme.   On a sunny day the green 
> of the interior gave the windshield the appearance of being tinted green. 
> Exterior was done in Coral Metallic with a Black roof.
>
> And the exterior is not blue either - there is green in it.   "Tamiami 
> Green" perhaps?
>
> So, this car is not as original as the seller claims - incorrect cloth 
> inserts, incorrect instrument panel paint, incorrect engines heads, and 
> incorrect era air cleaner.
>
> Bill
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: jrawa@xxxxxxx
> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] eBay Motors: Plymouth hemi in 1955...
>
>
> anything is possible... the stock poly was a dodge based engine so head 
> swap was possible.... it was a spitfire engine i think, just like the 331 
> and 354 chrysler low-line polys... my 56 belv had the dodge based poly....
>
> the 49-52 caddy [and olds? - my 50 olds had a rear draft carb- so may be 
> caddy-only] "batwing" air cleaner is worth about $500 on ebay
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: debenson2 <debensonii@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:09 am
> Subject: [FWDLK] eBay Motors: Plymouth hemi in 1955...
>
>
> Neat '55 Plymouth...
> Did dealers do head and intake swaps back then?
> Seems that the seats were done wrong as far as style? (tuck and roll 
> cloth)
> Any thoughts?
>
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