Re: [FWDLK] Where is everyone?

["Anthony C. Boatman" <acboatman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

For decades the Big Three dug in their heels and fought against any type of change to make their cars better or safer.  They fought against seat belts, stronger bumpers, collapse zones, better mpg, you name it.  Now they are reaping the results.  

Best thing would be for them to go bankrupt and reorganize under that protection with a commitment to start building better cars more suitable to the realities of the 21st century.  

If government need has a role in this at all, it should be to prop up the pension plans and benefits for retired workers, so they don't get clobbered in the process.  But I'm something of a socialist at heart, so I'm worried about the little guy, not the top execs.

Tony Boatman
Boise, Idaho
57 Dodge CRL
65 Corvair Monza

-----Original Message-----
From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Jones
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:07 AM
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Where is everyone?

It used to be "Made in USA", then Congress changed the law so that 
"Made in America" was OK. the dumb american public thought that was the 
same. Years ago, Chebby big cars were made in Canada, railed to 
Janesville, WI and had final assembly point: "Janesville, WI" on the 
MFG plate. What they did there was have guys go down the line of cars 
and install the right hand rear view mirror.
Honda built their US plant in Maryville, OH, and started building cars 
eventually with 95% US content. The US top execs would come down for 
tours to see how they were building so efficiently, with no union, and 
took home nothing. Can't teach them.
Honda tried to join the AAMA (Big three assoc.) and were told no, 
"You're foreign". This while most US cars were built in Canada and 
Mexico. Now we're down to 2 1/2 US mfg.. and they may go. Can't teach 
them! Let it happen, maybe Honda, Toyota and others will buy them up 
and make them successful.

Which ever way it goes, the top 4 levels of execs should be fired on 
the spot, with no exit packages and no bonuses. Same for anything else 
the Gov. takes over, walk in, excort the execs out, and replace with 
qualified people responsible to the Feds.
Ray


On Nov 17, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Greg Robertson wrote:

It's not just political correctness, it's also about manufacturing 
reality.  BMW, Mercedes, Subaru, Nissan, Toyota, and others all build 
cars here while our big three have shut plants here and opened more and 
more plants overseas.  I love my PT Cruiser, but it was built in Mexico 
while a cousin of mine's Subaru was built in Indiana by Americans, 
using a lot of American-made parts.   So what does "buy American" mean 
any more?  

Maybe it just means buy and keep more ForwardLook cars. Nothing more 
American than that.

Greg Robertson
'55 Savoy


On Nov 17, 2008, at 5:29 AM, JRawa@xxxxxxx wrote:

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> stop importing and buy american....good idea.... but then we'd be a 
> pro-american country and economy... and thats not politically correct 
> in the modern world...
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