Re: [FWDLK] winter storage & gas

[Nick Sperduto <drt-rdr@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Here in NJ, we have the E-10 (10% alcohol) gasoline and from what I've read, the new E-10 gas has a shelf life of 30-45 days before it starts forming water drops in the gas.

My solution is to run Stabil all year round in my power equipment, motorcycle and old cars and leave the tank full for the winter.

you can read more here

http://www.fuel-testers.com/expiration_of_ethanol_gas.html

http://www.boatus.com/news/e10_0706.htm

 

I know that last spring my car didn't run well, I run a clear glass fuel filter and it had a load of sludge of some sort in the bottom of it. It was so bad, I even saved the filter to show it to a couple buddies. This is the first time in 17 years that I had that. No idea where it came from and I've never had a clogged filter before.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: David Homstad

To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:31 AM

Subject: [FWDLK] winter storage & gas

Mike,

 

Should we or shouldn?t we fill the gas tank for winter storage?

 

In my opinion, it is better to fill the tank. In a few months of winter storage, gas doesn?t get that stale and you can always ad a can of stabilizer. In 30 years of storing cars for the winter, I have never had a fuel problem at spring startup.

 

If the tank doesn?t have gas in it, it has air in it. Air contains water vapor, and when the temperature drops, the water condenses on the interior walls of the gas tank. This causes rust on the walls and top of the tank. As the temperature increases and decreases during the daily cycle, the air expands and contracts, exchanging old air for fresh air carrying more water vapor. Each day, more water can condense, until it runs down the interior walls into the gas. Since water is heavier than gas, it settles at the bottom of the tank. This rusts the bottom of the tank. In a daily driver, this bottom-of-the-tank water could cause gas line freeze, which is why the gas additive ?HEAT? was invented. But with modern gasohol, which is 10% alcohol, this water doesn?t freeze anymore. It just stays liquid and keeps on rusting the tank. So, if the tank is full, there is no air and all of the above goes away.

 

Dave Homstad

56 Dodge D500

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike & Chris Morelli
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:17 PM
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [FWDLK] Where is everyone?

 

I know my cars are put away for the winter.  Covers and all.  Should of filled up at $2.13 @ gallon, but not good to sit all winter.  Hope it is still that low in the spring.

 

As for the Big 3 bail out.  I would like to see our American 3 survive, but come on!!  How about giving TAX payers a 50K tax credit to buy an AMERICAN car.  I am sure that would jump start the economy in itself and keep Detroit rolling!!!!!!  I know a nice Dodge Journey sitting with my name on it!!!!!!  Or just send us a check to buy a new car, that would work too.  I'll buy two!!!!

 

Mike Morelli

57 & 58 Plymouths

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