It's not me too and I agree 100% on Jim's comment to ignore #9! I have a
100% feedback score of 320 and always pay in advance. And yes I got
ripped off a couple of times too. And on one occasion it was by a well
known member of the FWLK site :(
Living in the Netherlands we know shipping can be expensive. I always
search for a good way to ship and tell the seller how to ship it or I
have it mailed to one of my good friends in the US who takes care of
shipping or stores the part until I come over to pick it up (thanks
DAN!).
Neil if this "friend" is from the Netherlands please PM me and I'll see
if I can be of any help. It is a small country and I know 99% of FWLK
owners.
Ron Keij
The Netherlands
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[mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Namens Jim Hoekendijk
Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2007 9:07
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Onderwerp: Re: [FWDLK] Life's Lessons/The Shipping News
It's not me. I don't ask for favours like that.
But I do have to make a comment on this.
I live abroad and have a 500 plus positive buying feedback on eBay.
Almost everything is shipped with USPS and everything arrived FAST.
Envelopes, packages big & small, and even a 1957 Dodge.
As is the rule with eBay, I always pay after the auction is closed. No
COD
or whatever. After some 700 buys, only one did never arrive (at the
address
of my good friend in the US).
And only one item was badly mispresented and after I sent it back (and
paid
for shipping twice) I received a bad check, which costed me a lot to
have it
processed. Never received my money back. And BTW, this was done by a
well
known fellow FWDLK'er here.
Please, ignore rule #9!
And Neil, you're to good to be true. If there's anything I can do to
help,
PM me.
Jim, The Netherlands
1957 Dodge D500 x2
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Namens Eastern Sierra Adjustment Services
Verzonden: donderdag 13 december 2007 2:41
Aan: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Onderwerp: Re: [FWDLK] Life's Lessons/The Shipping News
Sorry; I should have proof-read my story better : the parts-recipient
made a completely
non-related purchase of bulk trunk sound-deadener material (which
weighed-so-much) ,
which was sent to me, so that I could ship it off to the 'recipient',
along with the order that
I had made to Gary Goers, for some light-weight miscellaneous
parts-stuff.
The recipient told me to include the trunk-stuff, along with Gary's
stuff, in one container
(which happened to fit nicely inside the 'trunk-stuff' box).
Neil Vedder
Eastern Sierra Adjustment Services wrote:
> I apologize for this long message, and anyone bored or offended by it
> may delete it.
>
> My story involves the following life-lessons, which we all should be
> generally aware of, but which
> never hurts to reiterate, in case we ever decide to do anyone else a
> financial favor:
>
> 1) Military: Never volunteer
>
> 2) Civilian: No good deed goes un-punished
>
> 3) Gambler: Never wager/risk more than you can afford to lose
>
> 4) Investor: Never invest/risk more than you can afford to lose
>
> 5) Negotiator: Never bargain where your highest outcome is a no-win
> situation
>
> 6) Conservative: You get what you deserve ; blame the victim ;
> (almost) no one is trustworthy
>
> 7) Liberal: Forgive-and-forget ; stay on the high-ground ; (almost) no
> one is not trustworthy
>
> 8) Cynic: Never forget the price of everything, value does not matter
> ; what's-in-it-for-ME ?
>
> 9) Ebayer: Never ship anything out of the U.S.
>
> 10) Faux News: We report, you decide
>
> 11) Me: Live and learn
>
> I'm not going to name-names, here, but I'll be glad to provide them,
> on a PM basis.
>
> Back in June, my friend Ron Mog, who made the pilgrimage to Tulsa,
> allowed a couple
> "tourists", who were going-on , to Tulsa, too, to use his home
> garage's hydraulic lift, to service their
> newly-bought 1961 Newport. Ron provided grease/lube and tools, but
> also an idler-arm rebuilding
> kit (which service the car really needed).
>
> It was agreed that the 2 men would send Ron another 'kit', after they
> returned home.
>
> Never happened.
>
> I PM'ed 'them' several times (Ron having no confuser), but never got
> any response ; the last time, Ron had asked me to try to
> get a $20.00 bill out of them, in the mail.
>
> Never happened.
>
> Now, the reason that I'm writing all this, is merely this: on 11/13/07
> I paid $422.12 for an actual UPS billing,
> that I voluntarily paid, and for which I expected full reimbursement,
> on a package of FWDLK parts which
> was sent to a Foreign Country.
>
> I had never shipped anything large, to another country, before, by
> UPS, or USPS (#9, above)
>
> I have no financial profit in this transaction. ( #2, and #3/#5)
>
> Before this occurrence, I had volunteered (#1; and I was in the Navy)
> to help the individual make an order
> thru Gary Goers, which, for me, has not been a problem. I even
> volunteered to PAY Gary (#1 & #3/#5)
> for the parts, and hope to receive reimbursement for that expense (#7)
> at a later date. I do not know if
> Gary has been paid, as the shipping matter hit-the-fan before I could
> write a check to Gary. I am prepared
> to pay Gary, if necessary, as it was my order to him (#4 ).
>
> The beneficiary of this matter is, of course, the parts recipient,
> who, today tried to make himself the victim
> (#6) by saying that I had failed to inspect the trunk panels(about
> which I had NO involvement), as well
> as saying that I "should have known that the USPS would be cheaper"
> to send the stuff, overseas, than
> "good old(?)" UPS.
>
> Now, probably no one here has had experience with shipping via UPS,
> but, they are an international
> package shipping business.
>
> Business competition being what it is, and (in part) because I HAVE
> routinely used UPS to
> ship packages, and Gary Goers' parts-stash was sent via UPS, and the
> trunk-stuff was sent Fed Ex Ground
> (iirc) to me (for incorporation with Gary's stuff, for a 1-package
> deal ; what-a-guy) , I put the
> stuff together & took it to UPS depot, waited in line, got to the
> counter, and the nice lady, there, said :
> "Oooh, this is going to be expensive".
>
> As I am not poor, but not rich, and as I knew of no other cheaper
> means to ship the package (weight:
> 37 lbs, total) , I gulped and gave the lady my credit card.
>
> Altho I have not done so, I do know of several persons who have
> shipped entire cars across the pond
> and I know that international shipping is not cheap. That knowledge,
> as much as anything (and the hope
> of getting reimbursed ; #7) persuaded me to finalize this dope-deal,
> which, again, I had no financial
> profit, what-so-ever, in contributing-to
>
> So, per #10, and #6, above, I am NOT looking for any sympathy, or
> (much) commiseration (#6, after-all!),
> but I do want to state, for the possible benefit of anyone who might
> be interested in doing anyone else a good-faith
> good-samaritan , but possibly-flawed, (financial) favor, please see
> #8, and all the other Life Lessons,
> before deciding what to do.
>
> So, what have we learned, today?
>
> Ron Mog graciously allows his personal property to be used, and gets
> stiffed, over $20.00 retail value of
> a idler-arm rebuilding kit.
>
> And I, not knowing any better, rely on UPS to tell me what it wants to
> ship a 37 lb package overseas, and
> I get stiffed, for $422.12 .
>
> I have no recourse, except for the writing of this message, but, I
> am willing to abide by #11, above.
>
>
> Neil Vedder
>
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