Hey, Fern: I hope the FWDLK confuser-system doesn't terminate my daily
allowance, of postings!!
OK: so, let us stipulate that THIS car is in no way correctly
"restored", but, that you do create correct restorations.
The monetary-question then becomes: is a non-correctly-restored car
more valuable than a correctly-restored car?
I think that the clear answer is on display at the Barrett Jackson
Auctions, where clear-pure(?)-hotrods are seen, all day long, to be
apparent money-LOSERS for their sellers.
We all (should) know that $X dollars invested in a car, or house,
restoration does not necessarily produce an increase in market value.
This seller might have been better-advised to paint the car in
Corvette-red, than a wrong shade of Dodge gold (which is not
particularly attractive, anyway, IMHO.)
If the seller would have been up-front with the liberties that he took
in 'finishing' the car, then I would have said: well, OK; good luck to
you.
Another thing which bothers people (me) when an item is obviously
mis-represented, is the extent to which the seller knows, or should
know, that what he is saying/claiming, about the item is not true.
Another non-improvement to the Epay system is their hiding of the
identities of the "early" bidders, on any item where the bidding
exceeds the astronomical amount of $100.00.
Sincere early bidding only serves to allow your bid to be raised, by
others, and, serves to draw attention TO the auction , which you also
don't appreciate.
INsincere bidding (shills) also draws attention to the auction, creates
artificial-interest, and, usualy "just" fails to exceed the Reserve on
the item. With "hidden" bidder identity, some bid-history/patterns is
disclosed by Epay, but there is nothing in the system to prevent
friends-and-relatives from contributing under-Reserve bids.
So, to reiterate: I didn't present this poor-car to the List.
And, if someone doesn't care about the gross inaccuracies associated
with the way that the car is finished (and regardless of its MECHANICAL
condition -LOLOLOL) , and he can afford a Pamela Anderson-mobile, then,
it IS a free-country, and it is his money.
Neil Vedder
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- From: Fern Rivard <crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:53:24 -0600
After looking at all of the photos, that 57 coronet appears to be a very well restored car. Neil could you please elaborate as to what the "mess" on that car is all about! As for the sun visors supposedly missing, there isn't even any photos of them on that listing. Surely you must be dreaming at a fair market price of only $10/15K on a car restored as such. I would suggest that you start with at least $35/$45K and then you might be getting closer to the real ball park. I've restored a number of cars over the years and I have never ever been to get a car restored for a lowly figure of $10/15K. I suppose that if one can do all of the work themselves (so not cost in labour) and they could get all the material for peanuts, then it would help but reality says that this doesn't happen. It's the sellers choice if he want to list a "buy now price" for some of the folks who don't want to go thru the torture of a bidding process but remember that nobody says that you have to bu!
y it for that. As the seller does suggest, you go and find one that is done better than this and for what price.
I just don't think that it's fair for people to complain and run down cars that are for sale unless they know a lot about that particular car and have seen it all first hand in person. I realize that sometimes photos can be very deceiving but by the qualilty of photos on this case, I would be very doubtful about that.
But Neil, I don't want you to take offence at me as I'm simply another observer on this reflector. If in fact you do know something that we should all know about this car, please come forward with it. I do not know the owner or seller of this car so I have no personal interest in it. If I was in the market for a 57 dodge coronet, I would certainly have a very good look at this one as they are rarely for sale in this reconditioned state.
Cheers from Fern
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From: "eastern sierra Adj Services" <esierraadj@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] 57 Dodge Coronet on EBay
I didn't post this car's auction earlier, because it seemed like it
would be jumping on an unworthy subject.
The poor car is a mess, and its buy-it-now price is an insult to any
buyer, who might have that much money to spend ON a 50's car.
The car doesn't have any sun visors now, but, the only interesting
option on it, is its coding that it came with OEM with tinted plastic
visors.
My SWAG is that the car has a fair market price of around $10- $15 K, as
is.
Neil Vedder
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