Re: [FWDLK] Deck Erection.....in ALL positions

[eastern sierra Adj Services <esierraadj@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hey, Ron: "BENDING" a spring-steel torsion bar????

There IS a 57 Dodge Technical Service Bulletin (D-17-A, of 3/15/57) on
this subject ; which is a pisser, as my car was BUILT on 3/28, so, it
would have been nice if the factory woulda begun FIXING the limp decks,
by that time, of issuing that TSB!

Actually, D-17-A  refers to prior TSB D-17, of 11/26/56 (so, the
heartbreak of Limp Deck Syndrome WAS encountered, early-on, in the 57
MY!

D-17 talks about what Roger VanHoy referred to, but does NOT discuss any
lubrication of the
"deck lid hinge torsion bar retainer cup" , but, rather, the possibility
that the WELD, of the
DLHTBRC, to the hinge,  may have "broken loose and allowed the cup to
turn,( if-so:) it is impossible to adjust the torsion bar for proper
action".

The TSB tells the dealership's Service Department to remove "the
hinge...  [which one? both of them, individually?]...and check the weld
on the back of the hinge"---if the weld is broken, reposition the cup &
re-weld the cup in place.

I've exmined the appearance of the DLHTBRC, and it LOOKS ok----but, I'm
thinking that I should put the wife in the trunk, with a flashlight
(more room in there, for her, you see) and have her check-out the
operation/movement of the
DLHTBRC, to see if it/they look(s) their moving, when the trunk is
closed/moved.

Getting back to Ron's reference, it would appear that the re-welding of
the DLHTBRC might not have been the be-all /cure-all, universal-fix, as
TSB  D-17-A would have the Service Department , now : " ...it is
suggested that the end of the  torsion bar, which fits into the hinge
retainer cup, be "reformed" [ OH YEAH?--HOW; in a vise?; it's
spring-steel, right? certainly not with "heat"??? ] .... about 3/8"
increased-bend, at its tip-end. This will tend to draw the hinge arm in
when raising or lowering the deck lid."

When I installed the NOS bars, I didn't think, to try to bend their
ends, inward--I had just thought that the Liump Deck Syndrome was due to
a material failure of the T/ bars metalugy
and that the NOS bars should have fixed the deficiency.

II should still have Horrie's OEM bars, in my shed----I'm thinking that,
after Knormie gets out of the trunk , after checking the operation of
the DLHTBRC (what a girl!) , that I might try to have a metal-shop try
to "reform" the ends of the  OEM bars, and then, paint them & RE-install
them!!!

---Oh, Norma, Honnneyyy......

Neil Vedder.



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• From: Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>
• Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 13:36:16 -0400

There are instructions in the Dodge shop manual as to how to bend the
torsion bars forward and back to make the lid go up slower or faster. I'm
sure you can find the 'sweet spot' where the lid stays open in any position.
My 58 Ply is pretty much like that.

Ron


> Both my all-original 1957 Dodges have the deck lid stay open in any
> position.
> Jim
> The Netherlands
> '57 Dodge x2
>
>
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> Verzonden: vrijdag 3 augustus 2007 6:58
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> Onderwerp: [FWDLK] Deck Erection.....in ALL positions
>
> Glenn Barratt PM'ed me, to ask me upon what reference I based my
> statement  that a PROPERLY working deck lid  (nyah, nyah, nyah) would
> hold any partially-opened  position
> in which  an operator would  place  it.
>
> From the 57 Dodge Service Manual : " All Dodge [dunno about PLY's
> though] cars have a balanced deck lid [ IN THEORY ] , made possible by a
> torsion bar hinge mechanism. Lifting the deck lid is accomplished with a
> finger tip--the weight of the heavy lid is counter-balanced in all
> positions by the spring tension of the two torsion bars.
>
> As the deck lid is raised [NOT whanged- upward ] , the twisting action
> of the bars against the hinges causes the bars to twist, exerting a
> torsional spring resistance that balances [!!]  the lid.
>
> WHEN LID HAS BEEN ADJUSTED CORRECTLY,  LID SHOULD [ahem] HOLD ANY
> POSITION WHEN RELEASED [emphasis-added] .
>
> So THERE, you smug so-and-so's , with your deck lids that just go
> UP,and stay up,  whenever you want them to.
>
> They don't actually perform like they're supposed to do!
>
> At least, I got to watch MY deck lid perform correctly, for an hour, til
> I closed the lid, on the newly-installed NOS T/bars!
>
> The very next day: experienced the heartbreak Limp Deck Syndrome, all
> over again!
>
>
> Neil Vedder
>
>
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