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Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 06:06:02 -0600
From: Jim Pristelski <ajp002@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Fwd: [FWDLK] '59 Fury on ebay
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From: Jim Pristelski <ajp002@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Dec 8, 2006 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] '59 Fury on ebay
To: "Mark J. Hash" <mjh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Mark,
As you suspect, this has all of the earmarks of a scam. 1. buy it now
price
is too low, 2. price includes shipping (no one does this!), 3. seller is
unavailable and out of the country, even though the car is in the U.S., 4.
price includes return shipping if the buyer is not satisfied (no one even
thinks of putting this in their listing!), 5. auction was ended early (by
ebay, no doubt), 6. the seller says that he ended the auction early
because
of the buyer's interest (no seller ever ends an auction early without at
least some earnest money, such as a deposit thru paypal), and, 7. lastly,
the deal is too good to be true.
Unfortunately, a number of such listings are posted on ebay each day, and
not just for mopars. For example, it has gotten to the point that you
have
to be very careful in purchasing a Harley Davidson on ebay because there
are
so many fraudulent listings. Many of these listings are posted by hacker
types in the former eastern Europe Soviet block countries,and there is not
a
whole lot that ebay can do about it except cancel the listing. They
copy previous legitimate listings on ebay and repost the listing on
ebay with unrealistic terms and conditions to lure the unwary into sending
them money.
Stick to your guns and help your father save his money from the fraudsters
who are so prevalent on ebay!! He will never see this car; it is fraud
all
the way.
With best regards,
Jim
On 12/8/06, Mark J. Hash <mjh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
*Hello list. I have been mostly lurking and not posting much the last
few months. But I have a situation where I would like your opinions and
comments. First, the facts as I know them: *
**
*---My dad is not an ebay member, but a friend recently turned him onto a
'59 Fury in Massachusetts being sold on ebay. Item #120060852918, seller
is
houstonpt, with a feedback rating of 0 (zero). *
**
*---The Buy It Now price was $4800. After dad emailed the seller, found
out this INCLUDED shipping the car via DAS shippers from Mass to us in
Oregon. Also included a 30 day warranty in which the seller promised to
pay
for RETURN SHIPPING to Mass if my dad wasn't satisfied with the car. *
**
*---After my dad said he wanted the car, the auction mysteriously
disappeared. The seller emails that it is because he is reserving the
car
for my dad. The seller says he moved from Mass to Budapest, Hungary,
making
it necessary to sell the car. *
**
*---After my expressing to my dad the possibility that this may be one of
the many fraudulent car auctions making their way through ebay, my dad
again
contacted the seller, who replied with directions on how he could pay for
the car using ebay's Vehicle Purchase Protection plan. Have others here
used the VPP to purchase a vehicle? If the deal falls apart after my dad
pays the money, how difficult is it to get the money back? *
**
*What am I missing here? I have been on ebay for 10 years, but have not
purchased a car on ebay. I am quite well aware of the scams and
fraudulent
car auctions, and have told my dad that's what I think this is - a scam.
The price is too low, the deal is too good, the auction was terminated,
and
that's not how ebay works. Yet he remains convinced the seller and car
are
legit. Is it possible he's right? *
**
*Thanks for your comments,*
**
*Mark mjh*
*Sutherlin, OR*
*'57 Fury*
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