With all due respect to "Julio's floor plate", and to Marty's engineering research, "we" are talking about "massively (nowadays)"full-framed cars, with pretty-thick floor metal. Altho I have not crash-tested my own "system, I used 2 large steel washers (with radiused edges, I think) on either side of the floor, to support the thru-bolt, that secures the front seats, to the floor. Before the seat belts rip-out, thru the floor, there must, first be some sort of massive impact, which would act independently from the support provided by the frame rail-system. I don't think I WANT to survive any such impact. BTW, the CHP has told me that their studies on frontal impacts indicate that, due to internal-organ inertia, (brain/lungs/guts) they can not 'state' that 'all' people can survive crashes above 35 mph---survivability depends upon age/condition of the victim, and, most-importantly, the attenuation (slowing-down) of the impact of one's internal organs, during the collision episode. btw(ii) in a LOT of frontal crashes, the victims submarine" UNDER the seat belt system, and are crushed under the steering wheel/dashboard areas---so, be SURE to install the 5th-point safety harness, between your legs. The main benefit of lap belts is to keep the occupants INSIDE the car (for better, usually, or worse)--and, the driver BEHIND the steering wheel. I believe that the late 50's cars have laminated safety glass, so that when your pasenger is cantilevered into the W/S, by their lap belt, their face will be damaged, but their carotid/jugular arteries/veins may be intact. btw (iii) a lot of airplane crash victims are found to be in 2 pieces, from the action of the "lap-belt" system. Neil Vedder ************************************************************* To unsubscribe or set your subscription options, please go to http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=l-forwardlook&A=1
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