Geez, what a soap opera!!! What are your collective
opinions on the best way to sell an old car? Old Car
Trader? Local newspaper?
--Roger van Hoy, '55DeSoto, '42DeSoto, '66Plymouth,
'73Duster, '81 Imperial, Washougal, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Hagen" <brian.hagen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 3:11 PM
Subject: [FWDLK] How NOT to sell a car on Ebay (long story,
HUGE twists!)
| How NOT to sell a car on Ebay.
|
| I am pretty much dumbfounded right now as I cancel my
auction for my 62 300
| on Ebay. I have sold over 100+ things on Ebay, but never
anything as big as
| a car, but I figured, it couldn't be so hard. I was so
wrong.
|
| The problems started when the auction was progressing as
normal when I got a
| person ("anopia", neuropil@xxxxxxxxxxxx ) bidding on it 6
times until it met
| the reserve. I figured someone really wanted the car and
didn't think to
| much of it. And then I get an email from that same
"anopia" stating he was
| buying the car for his brother for graduation and that he
found out his
| brother wanted a 60 300 instead" and he was retracting his
bid. I was a bit
| taken back by this piece of news, but figured people make
mistakes.
|
| So he retracts his bid and then emails me that he had his
sister
| ("c.s.lord" ) bid on the car to "help jack up the price".
What!!?? The
| sisters bid put the auction just below reserve, but not
the high bidder. I
| then emailed him telling him not to bid or have his sister
bid on my
| auctions again and cancelled and banned thier bids. What
an assh0l3!
|
| So then i did some investigation. It seems Anopia and
C.S.Lord are indeed
| the same person. AND of course, He was selling items on
ebay quite
| regularly and bidding on them himself as "his sister" to
jack up the price.
| Thru my snooping, I also found a third email address/ebay
account for him!
| ( donaldlav@xxxxxxxxx ) it seem "donald" was also
| bidding/selling/retracting his auctions. He has sold and
bought several
| high price items on Ebay with the bid/cancel/rebid scheme!
He has also done
| this on other auction sites.
|
| So i emailied Ebay and they did their investigations and
had his account
| pulled. Fine. End of story? NOPE!
|
| Soo..after all my cancelling of this jokers bids and what
not, I had a new
| "old" high bidder. ("thomaskorbay"
ThomasKorbay@xxxxxxxxxxx ) I decided to
| do some investigation into him as well. It seems he had
recently bought
| some 58 Edsel parts. AND it turns out Anopia, the inital
jerkbidder was
| SELLING 58 Edsel parts? Coincedence? I wasn't quite sure.
And then i
| snooped deeper. It turns out my high bidder was using an
ebay account based
| on a German email address! Why? Because EBAY doesn't allow
you to search on
| German users! It is against German privacy laws. So I
couldn't find out
| what he was selling or buying. I left it at
coincedence..UNTIL...
|
| 3 hours before my auction was about to end I get an email
from , the
| "german" bidder stating that he was retracting his bid
because he bid on
| another item before becoming the new high bidder on my
auction. Ah..the old
| bait and switch continues! His intention was this: Bid on
my car with the
| german account, bid on it again under a false name to find
out the reserve,
| and then cancel that bid. Wait till the auction is about
to close, and then
| retract again. He sent me a note along with the "I
cancelled because I bid
| on another item...oh would you sell it for the original
price?" What
| bullshit. He couldn't buy the car because he bid on
another but "oh..but
| will you sell it for $XX" dollars. And it turns out after
i emailed him
| that I wanted the link to the "other auction he bid on"
that ..he wasn't the
| high bidder on it. Not even close!
|
| So now I end up with a cancelled auction. I finally just
gave up and
| cancelled it. With all these bids/cancels/retracts it
frankly looks
| horrible. Im sure a potential bidder thinks I, the seller,
is up to no good.
| I know I probably would think the same way.
|
| This auction has more twist and turns. But I know one
thing. He screwed
| with the wrong guy. So I ask everyone to please send this
to your buddies,
| send it to your car friends, send it to your grandmother.
I want to get
| this guy. I am currently trying to get his home
address...plane tickets
| being so cheap these days ;-)
|
| Feel free to email "him" at.
| neuropil@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| ThomasKorbay@xxxxxxxxxxx
| donaldlav@xxxxxxxxx
|
| This ISN'T over.
|
| Brian
| http://www.scatpack.com
|
|
|
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