Re: IML: unlimited supply of idiots

[dardal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Yes, the issue was tuning.  Also, the 440 had more torque at the low end, so in
order to get the throttle response the same, you would have to use a lower rear
ratio (say a 3.23) meaning more noise.  Also, the 426 was never an endurance
engine, so it was unknown how well it would take long mileage driving.  This is
one of the reasons the police cars never got a hemi.

The 426 hemi was really a detuned race engine, whereas the 440 (HP or non) was a
reliable engine with lots of power.  In the HP form, it is probably (almost
certainly) the most powerful mass produced engine of the period.

D^2

Quoting Rob P <fristpenny@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> I for one love those "TOY" cars.  Still, it's a shame to part out what 
> appears to be a solid car.  As for the 426 Hemi, I thought tuning 
> difficulties were more likely to keep it out of the Imperial.  The torque 
> figures were similar to the wedge and the better heads probably helped more 
> up in the rev range where Imperial drivers were/are less likely to tread.  
> D2 excepted.
> 
> The dual 4bbls were tougher to tune and so was the 6 pack.  That's how the 
> dealer talked my Dad out of a Hemi on the 'cuda that I still have.  I figure
> 
> your average Imperial owner wouldn't want to tinker with the carbs.  What 
> Imperials came with multiple carbs?
> 
> Oh, and when did the 440 stop using nylon timing gears?  I remember Pontiacs
> 
> had them and it was something to make fun of.
> 
> Rob
> 
> >From: David Whitney <david.whitney@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: IML: unlimited supply of idiots
> >Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 23:01:09 -0800
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hey, Drake --
> >
> >No Imperial came with the 426 hemi, largely because of noise.  Many of the
> >engine's performance features added to the decibel and vibration level, and
> >it was not Imperialistic enough to be offered as an option.  Imperials went
> >directly from the 413 in '65 to the 440 in '66.  Since the stock hp ranged
> >around the mid-300s, the 440 was sufficiently powerful and quiet.  In fact,
> >that's why so many mid- to late '60s Imperials (and lesser Mopars) have
> >timing chain failure.  The stock gear teeth are nylon, an engineering
> >blunder that slipped through as part of the noise reduction effort.
> >Happily, aftermarket gear teeth and even late OEM parts are sturdier.  The
> >hemi did not suffer from this design flaw.
> >
> >A 426 hemi would fit, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you like noise
> >while driving.  Now, old style hemi is another chapter, but I don't think
> >that was your question.
> >
> >-- David
> >
> >
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> >
> >                       Drake Rickertsen
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> >unlimited supply of idiots
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> >                       12/06/2004 09:46 PM
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> >
> >Wow! that's pretty sad. The Lebaron looked like a great restoration
> >project. Does anyone know what years the Imperial had Hemi engines or
> >perhaps what models? Were Hemi engines an option or standard in some?
> >
> >Ct. Drakeula
> >
> >dardal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >  This is another example, where the engine was pulled out for a toy car.
> >  Can
> >  these leather seats be saved?
> >
> >  
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34204&item=4510029682&rd=1
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> >
> >  D^2
> >
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