D^2, Let me admit first and foremost here, I'm a hot rodder. I'm not sure, but I'm probably classified one step above derby guys on this list. However, I don't throw myself in with the same crowds as the clapped out Camaro guys. I actually do my homework well in advance of making changes. I have the utmost respect for both the engineering that went into the cars, and for full stock restorations. However, I'm not looking for a stock restoration in my garage. I'd probably make some exceptions to that before my time it up, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. There have been advances in automotive technology since the mid '60's (going from Budd calipers to Bendix is one example). If some of that technology can be applied to my older cars, in a reasonable manner, I'll do it. The key being reasonable. Yes, a balanced braking system is key to good stopping. I have used adjustable proportioning valves in the past with excellent results. I have also driven stock disk braked cars that would lock the rear wheels at the drop of a hat. They were fully functioning brake systems too. The car will sit for at least the winter without being driven, and probably for a couple weeks at a time in the good weather. I have several other Mopars in the stable that I take to shows and cruise nights. If I can make the car safer (i.e. reduced stopping distance), and more enjoyable to drive at the same time, I'll do it. I don't know what the roads are like by you, but up here people are nuts. For the record, I won't run bias plys on the car, or to the other extreme, manhole sided wheels and rubber band tires either. Rob McCall '67 LeBaron -----Original Message----- From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dardal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:45 PM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: IML: '67 LeBaron update Quoting Rob McCall <Rob_Mopar@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > Maybe I need to take a look at the curb weights of the Ram & Durango, then > the 60-0 distances... > I have discussed this here before, but since Rob is new here, one more time won't hurt I guess! The issue here is balance of the brakes between front and rear. The facory calculated the surface areas on the front calippers and rear wheel cylinders (or they did it by trial and error) to make sure the braking torques are applied proportionally to the weights on each wheel, and the weight transfer. Changing the calipers will disturb that balance. You may get lucky and not be far off. Otherwise, you may end up locking up your rear wheels prematurely (worst case scenario) or the front ones, deteriorating overall performance. This is far more important than the 60-0 times of the donor vehicle. You may be able to play with different proportioning valves to fix the possible problem, but why bother? The parts are out there. Fix the car the way it was originally engineered, and if you do not stop driving it for long periods, it will be OK. D^2, 2x68 ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm