I looked under the hood the 1/2" vacuum tube that was coming out of the bulkhead was disconnected when i got the car so I dont think that is what is causing the hard brakes and the hissing sound. Then I looked to where it came in the car and saw it went up into the dash and i couldnt see where it was going so i removed the gauge panel and i saw where it ended. no hissing coming out of there when i stomped on the brakes. then I found the end of another vacuum tube that wasnt connected to anything. then I looked in my original service manual and saw that there was some kind of vacuum nozles behind the tranny shifter buttons I saw it was for the parking brake, and thats never been connected as far as I know since ive owned the car. that still doesnt account for the hissing of the service brake coming from behind the guages. Unfortunatly when I went to go start the car after removing the guages the car wouldnt start and it was getting late and dark out. so i had to stop for the night. but anyway when i turned the key I got nothing. no clicking of the relay at all. the interior lights worked still. but the headlights werent shining at all. so now im confused as to why the car wont start. I kinda need the car to start before I can listen for the hissing sound of the power service brakes. -Brandt Lake Forest, CA 1963 Le Baron ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm