Re: Fw: IML: 55 ignition problems Update (picking up on this thread with a dif ? )

[roger crabtree <rcrabshish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

 Calling all 55 owners,
I had a funny problem over the weekend.  We were
setting at a idle for about 20 minuets.  All of a
sudden my 55 started to act as if it was running out
of gas.  The guy behind me said it started to smoke a
blueish smoke when it did it.  I revved the engine, it
hesitated a few times and finally took off.  The car
was not hot and it acted like a vapour lock (had a
stude once). It never missed a lick the rest of the
weekend.  Have any of the rest of you had this
problem?
RC Billings, Montanaaaaaaaaaaaa

--- Rick Wiselus <rick.wiselus@xxxxxxx> wrote: 
> I work @ NAU, and we have a manufacturing shop for
> various labs and unique 
> equipment for all over campus, and they gave me the
> Teflon raw material, 
> and I made if for the replacement of the original
> plastic part.  I was able 
> to remove the distributor, and shook out both parts
> of the plastic one, so 
> I knew what to make, and it is perfect!
> Good luck.
> 
> At 12:24 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote:
> >Rick;
> >
> >Thanks for sharing and offering of rebuilding the
> part. The original part is
> >only partially there, so sending it to you would
> not be fruitful. However,
> >where did you get the Teflon? It sounds as if
> others with dual points may
> >run into the same thing eventually.
> >
> >Roger D. Casagrande
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Rick Wiselus" <rick.wiselus@xxxxxxx>
> >To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:29 AM
> >Subject: Re: Fw: IML: 55 ignition problems Update
> >
> >
> > > I had the same problem with my 53.  I
> manufactured one out of a piece of
> > > Teflon, it is better than the original one.  The
> insulator into the base
> >of
> > > the distributor.
> > > If you have the original plastic part and want
> to send it to me, I will
> > > make you a replacement.
> > > I later had to replace all the wire inside the
> distributor too.  I will go
> > > w/a petronix electronic ignition if I have any
> more problems with the dual
> > > points.
> > >
> > > At 07:46 PM 9/12/2004, you wrote:
> > > >My saga continues with more stories. One has to
> be careful and thorough.
> > > >Additional problems were found including a bad
> coil to distributor wire,
> >and
> > > >the latest, a short in the distributor from the
> coil lead to case. The
> >short
> > > >is the result of a bad insulator which allowed
> the stud to contact the
> >shell
> > > >in the shell port. That part of the insulator
> was missing. So when the
> > > >points and condensor were replaced and checked,
> there was no contact to
> >the
> > > >shell. I tightened that nut prior to
> installation into the engine. But I
> > > >learned today that small movements of the coil
> wire stud could cause a
> >short
> > > >to the shell. So while I believed the checkout
> was correct, after
> > > >installation in the engine, the short returned.
> The insulator has cracked
> > > >while diagnosing the problem. I now have a
> plumbing washer and electrical
> > > >tape around the stud until I can get a more
> suitable replacement. It
> > > >probably won't last long with the high engine
> temperatures generated.
> > > >
> > > >Does anyone have a source for this insulator in
> the distributor for the
> >coil
> > > >primary wire?
> > > >
> > > >Roger D. Casagrande
> > > >55 Newport
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Roger Casagrande" <rdc2382@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 4:14 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: IML: 55 ignition problems
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks to all who responded.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not home free yet, but the ignition
> switch was a problem. I
> >sprayed
> > > >the
> > > > > Radio Shack contact cleaner into it and it
> is functioning well again.
> >I am
> > > > > not sure putting the plug to the manifold
> really is providing a decent
> > > > > ground to check the spark. I've got to make
> sure the timing position
> >is
> > > > > approximate to what it was after replacing
> the distributor and using
> >fuel
> > > > > poured into the engine to compensate for the
> car sitting for awhile. I
> > > >have
> > > > > not gotten around to that yet bur will this
> weekend. An update will be
> > > > > provided.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger D. Casagrande
> > > > > 55 Newport
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <RandalPark@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 8:24 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: IML: 55 ignition problems
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you are really careful, you can bypass
> the dash and hot wire the
> >car.
> > > > > If it runs that way, then you know that
> there is something wrong in
> >the
> > > > > ignition switch or in the wiring under the
> dash.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had two '55 Imperials for a while. They
> both came from the same
> >place.
> > > > > The one I kept has always been dependable
> since I was able to get it
> > > > > running. The other one had something wrong
> in the ignition switch. It
> > > >would
> > > > > only start if it was hot wired, but would
> stay running without the hot
> > > >wire
> > > > > after it started. I was pretty sure that the
> ignition switch was at
> >fault,
> > > > > but gave the car away before I got around to
> fixing it. The guy that I
> > > >gave
> > > > > it to tracked down the problem and it was
> the ignition switch, so they
> > > >can,
> > > > > and do give trouble.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 9/7/2004 6:48:59 PM
> Eastern Daylight Time, "Roger
> > > > > Casagrande" <rdc2382@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >My 55 Imperial has lost its "spark". The
> car has run from November
> >2003
> > > > > when I got to about a month ago. I checked
> the spark by removing the
> >#1
> > > >plug
> > > > > and with the wire attached put the plug base
> to the intake manifold
> >and
> > > >had
> > > > > someone turn over the engine. No spark was
> seen at the plug. I checked
> >the
> > > > > coil by putting a plug with a 0.175" gap
> between the coil output and
> >the
> > > > > manifold and got a solid blue spark. I
> changed the points and
> >condenser
> > > >and
> > > > > checked that the primary wire was not
> grounded when both points were
> >open.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Another note is that I have the center
> portion of the dash off to
> > > >repair
> > > > > the radio and polish the knobs of the
> controls. I don't know if
> >something
> > > >in
> > > > > the ignition requires all of the dash
> controls 
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=====
RC Billings, Montanaaaaaa 

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