A while back I appended a portion of the OIC web pages on body type definitions. This was a set of definitions created by the SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) about 90 years ago: http://www.imperialclub.org/temp/c_middlebrook/body_styles/bodies.html Chris Middlebrook --- On Wed 07/14, Hugh & Therese < hugtrees@xxxxxxxx > wrote: From: Hugh & Therese [mailto: hugtrees@xxxxxxxx] To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:17:11 -0500 Subject: Re: IML: yes, what is a coupe ? Mr. Sutton asked a question that is of some merit. Though it begins as a<br>generally directed question, it seems, in the second half of the post, to be<br>specifically directed towards me. I was not going to continue the thread as<br>others had, I thought, answered the question and it, to me. had stretched<br>beyond anything related with Imperials. Mr. Sutton is a person of who has<br>been on this list far longer than I, so I shall follow his lead, as ever. I<br>would not care for him to be treated in any way that could be construed as a<br>rude. Heaven forbid.<br><br>Here is a link to a site that explains the word coupe, which, of course, is<br>of French origin.<br><br>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=coupe<br><br>It will be obvious to all that a hard top cannot, by strict definition, be<br>considered to be a coupe. Why else would the automobile industry have felt<br>it necessary to have two different descriptions for two different kinds of<br>cars? Words in common parlance do not, of course, adhere to such rigoro us<br>consistency, as their meanings become fuzzy and change over time. My museum<br>has just a horse carriage. I myself have ridden in a railway carriage coupe<br>on British Railways, but this is probably more expounding than even the ever<br>exhaustive Mr. Sutton might possibly want.<br><br>For the record, the answer Mr. Sutton cared enough to comment on did not<br>came from the seat of my pants. Like his question, it was a product of an<br>experienced brain, trying to explain something to someone who expressed some<br>perplexity, despite prior explanations, about the differences between the<br>two terms. I cannot cite any references for the answer beyond my own<br>Imperial related reading in books, magazines, previous answers given on this<br>list, our web site and experience. If anyone wishes to dispute my answer in<br>totality or in part, I, too, will experience some benefit, as my ignorance,<br>along with the person who originally asked the question, will be dispelled<br>Until Mr. Sutton brought up the question of giving attributions for all such<br>answers, I had thought the purpose of the list was for us to participate<br>non-academically, as equals, and mutually benefit from this kind of<br>interchange.<br><br>I look forward to seeing full annotations on all future postings from Mr.<br>Sutton in the future so I might learn, not, obviously, as I did about the<br>difference between a sedan and a hard top, from the example of persons of<br>unimpeachable erudition and knowledge. Mr. Sutton's pursuit of total<br>accuracy in the future will be an example which I will be delighted to<br>emulate. No doubt I will fail, but how often does one ever really surpass<br>one's teacher? I'm sure everyone will want to do so as well and will wish<br>to thank him for this idea as it will raise the level of intercourse here<br>immeasurably. Mr. Sutton understands that is sometimes necessary to split<br>hairs in public as long as it is, of course, in the best interests of<br>mailing list members, a common goal about which he and I have shared some<br>interesting private e-mails.<br><br>Hugh<br><br><br><br><br>----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com -----------------<br>This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please <br>reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be <br>shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the<br>Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<br>To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm<br><br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!