Yes, the '64 is the same, doing ANYTHING behind or under that dash is a royal pain in the a**! Unless you happen to be 3 feet tall and have hands the size of drink coasters. B&T Roddick, Port Orchard, WA 1964 Imperial Crown (project) 1972 'Cuda 340 (Tami's toy) 1995 Concorde 1988 Cherokee ----- Original Message ----- From: <RandalPark@xxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:00 AM Subject: Re: IML: 66 Imperial clock > I happen to agree with you Arran, but in the '66 Imperial, the clock is not easily accessible. When it needs service, it is very difficult to remove. > > Some of my older cars have their clocks mounted near the glove compartment so that when service is required, they can be taken out without disassembling the rest of the dash. Even early '60s Imperials are not all that difficult to work on. The '61 through '63 models are quite easy, but'65 and '66 (and maybe '64, but I don't know for sure) Imperials are a different ball game. They require that the heavy chrome bezel, and the clear plastic instrument cover over the gauge cluster be removed to access any of the instruments including the clock. According to the shop manual, to do it correctly, this involves dropping the steering column, and to do that one needs to disconnect the transmission indicator needle. It is necessary to disturb too many things in order to work on the clock in these cars. > > For these cars, I would say that any clock that would stay working for a number of years without service would be an improvement, but only because of this problem with accessibility. > > Paul