I have to say that I have ordered and got headlining for my 66 Crown Coupe very fast ,I found SMS supplied me with the correct stuff and made it up perfectly and not expensive iether, I recently ordered material for seats and headliner again made up for my 55 Imperial ,once again excellent service was provided. Now as I live in England (europe) service like this is much appreciated, whilst I don't doubt people can have long waits for stuff I can only speak as I find and SMS have been A1 all the way for me. David Munson Sec Classic American Auto Club (GB) Ltd Oldest American car club in the UK >From: "Henry Hopkins" <hhrp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: IML: SMS-Plan on Waiting >Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 15:21:15 -0700 > >SMS says plan on at least six months. Do! Then when you have waited six >months, call to check on your order. Very possible you will be told they >have not even started and will not for months to come. My personal >experience is thirteen months wait for 61 door panels, and 8 months wait >for upholstery material for a 56 DeSoto. Key here is individual orders. >They do not get the attention that orders from other companies get. For >example, order door panels from Legendary for a 64 300K as my partner did >and received in three months. I believe Legendary gets panels from SMS. >Now Just Dashes advertises door panels available. You may very well get >your panels quicker by ordering from Just Dashes who send your order on to >SMS. I know this as the pres. of SMS(Doug) toldme this on a personal visit >to try and push on my order. Enjoyed the tour but did not succeed in >getting my order any sooner. > >We are stuck with them as they are the only source for fabrics and panels >and they do excellent work. My advice is to plan on a year. In this way, >you may be pleasantly surprised if your stuff comes sooner. Of course, >your credit card is charged immediately for your order regardless of how >long you have to wait for your order. That's always a given. > >And they don't respond to polite begging or to angry outbursts, one just >has to wait and listen to the same story each time one calls. > >True, I don't like dealing with them, but their stuff is great once >received, have to say that. > >Henry Hopkins, 61/60----- > From: mOPAR mIKE and mELISSA > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 2:08 PM > Subject: RE: IML: SMS problem Philippe/Elisabeth > > > Hello Everyone, > > I have just returned from a quick trip to SMS Upholstery here in Oregon. > > Here is what I learned: > > Very nice people there, they took the time to answer ALL my questions. > > They had 6 people (that I could see) on the phones, and the phones never >stopped ringing the whole time I was there. > > I talked to the owner and he took the time to look up the orders from >Philippe's friend M. Mendez (France) and Elisabeth (Sweden). > > Regarding M. Mendez' order, He told me that their mill supplier (in New >Jersey) had sent some vinyl back to Portland, but the "Pewter" color did >not match, so they had to re-order the vinyl to match the original samples >from M. Mendez (which I saw). They also had a problem with the embossing of >one of the vinyls. They are very meticulious and will only send the order >out if it is perfect and correct. > > Regarding Elisabeth's order, he showed me the order and said there were >6 different cars that she was buying material for. He said that some of the >fabrics had to be specially made at the mill in New Jersey and might take 2 >weeks, 2 months, or 6 months. > > One thing he kept saying was that people don't realize that some of >these orders may take 6 months or longer, he said the best thing to do is >to plan ahead and allow at least 6 months for any fabrics, or panels, or >vinyl, that might have to be dyed, or embossed, or made from scratch. > > He was very concerned about his customers, his office was well organized >and it only took him seconds to find M. Mendez' order and also Elisabeths >order. > > This was significant as they are also in the middle of a major move, >moving the whole business from Portland to Canby (a small suburb of >Portland) and into a larger warehouse. > > I have no involvement with this company, I went there in person to help >the people on the IML list, and to see what they have available for my >Imperials. > > I hope this helps.............. > > Michael Howlett > > Boring Oregon > > > > > > >From: Philippe Courant <accf-club@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: collyman1@xxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: SMS problem > >Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:44:41 +0200 > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - >FREE download! _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger