Leslie, As usual you are right on. I have a '68 Imperial and my folks have had one since 1969. True, the parts are difficult to find, but they are out there. Often the old parts can be rebuilt, and as you say, if we get enough names on the list, we can have rotors made. These conversions may be fine for the current owners, but what about a future owner 25 years down the road? One reason we are doing this is to preserve the cars as long as possible. If the car is original, at least the future owner will know what they are looking for. In fact, maybe by then, original style parts will be easier to get. In the case of a modified car, by then, the new parts today will be old and obsolete, and maybe even harder to find. That is if the future owner can even figure out what he is looking for. Paul In a message dated 4/28/2004 11:32:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kansas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > Hugh and All, > > The Budd Brakes are not an Exception....... All the parts are available. > I've owned my 67 since 1983 and it's been a driver for all than about 10 > years of that time. My dad rebuilt the Calipers after my grandmother gave > it to me (1983) and I had the pads changed in 1985. Until last Tuesday, I > had never had a problem with my braking system, last Tuesday the brakes went > out on my way home from work........ My mechanic couldn't look at it till > Friday..... Expecting the worst, I showed up with my spare Brake pads, the > Caliper part numbers, and the phone number of the place that manufacturers > the Rotors. > > Instead I have my car back with a Brand new Master Cylinder and Brakes that > throw you thru a windshield at the slightest touch.... Obviously the Master > Cyl has been on it's way out for awhile and it was so gradual that I didn't > notice my brakes were getting progressively worse. My pads that went on in > 85 still have 65% left, my rotors are fine. The only thing that has been > done since 85 is the flushing of whole system and the periodic adjusting of > rear brakes. That was last done in 2001 so it was on my list to do this > year as well. > > I see no reason to convert these systems. Everyone is converting to 70's > cars and those Rotors aren't any easier to find. > > You can do Mike's Conversion to Supra Rotors: > http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Brakes/mike.htm > > Or you can have Rotors made: > Mark Oliver > www.precisionbrakescompany.com > 476 Applegate Way > Ashland, OR 97520 > 1-866-99BRAKE (27253) > > Calipers are available at: ( Which is Checker, Kragen, Advance and Schucks) > http://www.partsamerica.com > > Part Numbers Left - 184480 and Right 184479 > > The pads are a bit more challenging as somewhere along the line, there was > an error made in the Catalogs and they list them as D85's, what they are > is D10's I did hear that this was going to be corrected, and a number of > people have found them.... I keep a spare set on hand. > > I've been keeping a list of people who are interested in Rotors as if we > order more than 50 rotors the price goes down substantially. But currently > I only have a list of about 15 people on my list. > > Leslie '67 Imperial Sedan > http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1967/Leslie/ > Leslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hugh & Therese" <hugtrees@xxxxxxxx> > To: "Imperial Mailing List" <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:45 AM > Subject: IML: original, restored & modified > > > > > The dichotomy in this group is between those who strive and struggle for > > originality and those who make modifications. One thing that rarely rears > > its head is necessity. An exception would be Budd brakes on the 67 & 68 > > cars. This system is seemingly made of unobtanium, and the folks with > these > > cars face a real dilemma in how to approach keeping their rides on the > road > > safely. Thanks to the internet, I have found that it has been possible to > > get just about everything original for my 1958. A few years ago I went > > fairly mad trying to find an original carburetor for mine, but I was > > determined to do so and was able to track one down eventually. > > > > >