Well, I think that I have finally decided to go ahead and take the engine completely out of my 83 to work on it. Trying to get the y-pipe 'un-welded' and removing the center link and THEN working on my back on the garage floor with crap falling in my face has set my mind. I found an engine hoist kit at a local Big Lots store. I may investigate it. I will also price out renting one. I know that it will be FAR easier working on the engine outside of the car. Plus as I mentioned before, I can work on the engine compartment as well as painting everything. Does anyone have info on 'special things' to look for when pulling an 80's 318? I know that there are air tubes going to the catalytic converter and other stuff that is not shown in that Rebuild Book I bought. Can the newer style A/C compressor be moved w/o dumping the R-12 (which still works)? Wish me luck. Dan Wing Marcy, NY USA imp1983@xxxxxxxx ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!