Dan Do you actually have headers on your car? If so you may have to loosen the entire exhaust so that it will hang down out of the way. Try prying the rubber hangers off. Dave U. 81Imp 94 Dakot 02 Stratus (wife's) -----Original Message----- From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Daniel M Wing Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:19 PM To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [-Possible SPAM-] IML: Exhaust 'y-pipe' removal Hi, (The continuing boring saga of my oil pump/bearing job.) Well, I finally got all four exhaust bolts out, (with out breaking any), and one flange is loose. Next question. How are you supposed to get the exhaust pipes off of the headers? Hit them with a sledge hammer? I don't want to wreck the catalytic converters. It looks like the flanges must just tighten up the cupped ends of the pipes. Should the y-pipe just pop off? Thanx for any suggestions. Dan Wing Marcy, NY USA imp1983@xxxxxxxx ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!