The old story goes something like this: An Imperial owner is buying gas. An interested bystander is enamored of the Imperial and asks enthusiastic questions about it. One of these includes price. His visceral response on the answer is, "For that much you could have got a Caddy." The essential element missing from the Imperial equation was "prestige." Unlike Lincoln and Cadillac, Imperial never truly made it to the exalted ranks of being a true prestige car. It has long been my contention that this is squarely the fault of the old Chrysler Corporation. In their own minds it was an advert for the rest of the line up, a loss maker that might attract the more wealthy client into the showrooms in order to switch them to a reasonably similarly equipped Chrysler, De Soto, Dodge or Plymouth. The Imperial never got its own distribution chain, unlike Ford and Cadillac. I have been accused of "revisionism" for promulgating this idea, although this was a decidedly minority response. However, exactly the gas station scenario happened to me when I was trying to sell a Chrysler Pacifica yesterday. "For that sort of money I could get an Escalade." I have had to attend many meetings about the Pacifica and sit through several CDs worth of introductory material. Each one repeats ad nauseam the idea that the Pacifica is up against premium completion - the BMW X5, Acura MDX and Lexus 330. However, despite our new German ownership, the old mistake is being repeated. They can say what they like till they are blue in the face, but the Chrysler brand is not a prestige brand. There is a 76 year old salesman at our dealership who sold his first car in 1952. He inherited his fathers, and his fathers before him, dealership and ran it until the late 80's. It was in a small Texas town. I asked him about selling Imperials and he said they were a real pain in the butt for him. He was obligated to take several of them a year by Chrysler in order to be allocated a larger amount of better selling vehicles. He was also obligated to maintain a certain inventory of spare parts and get training for technicians on a car which would never yield back the investment. The dealership for which I work is in a similar situation with the Pacifica. They are an obligation for doing business, they are being very poorly marketed by a corporate management team that has begun to believe its own illusory promotions. (Let's just say it is even further handicapped than the Imperial in that it is a dull vehicle, and leave it at that.) Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to repeat it. With the right support, the Imperial could have been a strong contender. Lousy build quality in its most successful year - 1957 - and an inadequate distribution network scuttled it pretty effectively. How many non-Imperial Mopar enthusiasts know enough about your car to not cal it a Chrysler Imperial? And if they can't be bothered to get it right, who else might? We have Concorde LXis and Limiteds we can only unload with steep discounts. Sigh. The beat(ing) goes on. Hugh