Yeah, I meant the repro stuff (should have said that!). --- "A. Foster" <monkeypuzzle1@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Jim; > I gather that when you are speaking of the cloth > covered wire you mean the > reproduction stuff and not used. In the old radios > sometimes the insulation > is still good, other times it is as hard as a rock > and cracks every time you > bend it. I have also run into some sets that use > some sort of gum rubber > insulation without the cloth, some of this stuff > actually melts and drips > from age! I think that some wire manufacturers never > vulcanised their rubber > insulation.There are a couple of outfits that sell > the stuff, sun wire being > one of them, most catering to those with vintage > electrical equipment. > However cloth wire is usually double the cost of > ordinary wire. > A good inexpensive substitute is what some would > call Celanese wire. It has > vinyl insulation with a cloth jacket made out of > Celanese, the same stuff > used in cigarette filters, and it is quite burn > resistant. I have never > bought any but i have pulled yards of it from old > T.V sets. > Best Regards > Arran Foster > 1954 Imperial Newport. > Needing A Left Side Taillight Bezel and other trim > parts. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Gathmann" <jim_gathmann@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: IML: wireing > > > > I'm pretty sure that the wire gauges were > > internationally standardized in the 40's or > 50's.... > > > > But to be on the same said, you can take a piece > of > > the old wire, remove the insolation, and buy a > wire > > gauge meter- basically it looks like a metal > circule > > with holes on the sides- whichever hole matches > the > > diameter of your wire will tell you what gauge it > > is.... > > > > BTW- it's helpful to replace wiring with wires of > the > > same color insolation (makes things easier down > the > > road if you have to do something again). So it can > be > > helpful to get a nice assortment of commonly used > wire > > colors. You can also always (excluding audio work > and > > coil work) go with higher ampage rating wire then > what > > was OEM.... > > > > I like to have a spoll of red, black, green, > white, > > blue, brown, tan, and a few other colors for a few > > different gauges at all times. If you need wires > with > > color tracers (like a blue wire with a red strip > down > > the side), a good source may be old cloth covered > wire > > for antique radio/TV/telephone collectors. Don't > let > > the cloth fool you- I've found that it insolates > > BETTER then rubber and plastic because it doesn't > melt > > or crack up over time! > > > > Hope that helps. > > --- Tracy Sherratt > <dave-tracy.sherratt@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > Hi all , > > > I hope that some one out there can help on this. > > > When replacing old wires ,the diagram shows what > > > gauge & color. However are modern / new rolls of > > > wire still gauged the same way. I need to > replace a > > > few wires that run from the ignition switch to > > > starter relay, the originals are cracking & > > > perishing quite bad. ( probably due to heat off > the > > > engine.)some of the wires seem to have quite a > thick > > > insulation. But modern wiring seems to be > thinner > > > even if the amperage rating is the same. I am no > > > auto electrician but still capable of doing > small > > > jobs like this, just the Tech side is letting me > > > down. For those that are familiar with the 60/61 > > > Imps I will probably need to replace Gen. to > reg./ > > > reg to ammeter/ light switch. > > > Thanks for your time, > > > Dave 60 Le Baron > > > England. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > http://search.yahoo.com > > > >