Not sure just what this is, but I do not believe it is a hood ornament. The 1981-83 Imperial hood ornament has a pedestal below the pentastar under which the retainer and spring is attached. The pedestal keeps the hood ornament level and in place on the top of the grille shell surface. The retainer is how the ornament is attached to the car and permits the ornament to move if it is hit. This eBay thing would just flop around on the top of the grille. There is no visible means of keeping it upright. All photos I have seen of the crystal hood ornament do not have the "Cartier" or emblem in it. However, looking at the 1982 brochure, the steering wheel crystal has the emblem and block letter "CARTIER" name. Unfortunately the eBay ad does not list the dimensions of the object. I own a 1983 Imperial, which does not have a crystal ornament, but a gorgeous "transluscent pentastar" (ie, plastic) hood ornament. The crystal in the steering wheel has the Cartier and emblem as the eBay unit does. For dimensions, my 1983 steering wheel crystal is 14mm (9/16") per side. The hood ornament "crystal" is 27mm (1-1/16") per side in side the frame, and 32mm (1-1/4") on the outside. The hood ornament's pedestal is oblong in shape, being 20mm (3/4") long and 12mm (1/2") across. As I said, I doubt this is a hood ornament. Looking at the base, it would make a nice key chain ornament, though. (Would love to be a fly on the wall when ol' Frank opens this package.) Bill Vancouver, BC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Ingraham" <jeff_ingraham@xxxxxxxxx> To: "IML" <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "IML WebMonsters" <iml-webmonsters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:35 AM Subject: IML: 81 hood ornament on ebay > Hi, > I know all the 81-83 Imperials had the cartier > crystal side emblems but on ebay last week there was a > Cartier crystal Hood Ornament. Does anyon the list > have one of these?? > I was rather suprised that Frank Mitchell was willing > to pay almost $250 for it as the high bidder. > I know it was the first one I ever saw but am curious > if there are any others out there? > Also I was thinking that we should snag the picts off > ebay for the 81-83 pages. > > Jeff > P.S. here is the link; > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10076&item=2410660605 &rd=1 > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > http://search.yahoo.com > >