The only thing a black plate designates is that if the car, as of 1963, was sold, registered, and stayed in California and still has it's original "Black Plate" it was always a California car. Many cars could have come in from other states and been re-registered during the black plate period, and still have a black plate. California currently will not allow black plates to be re-issued to a car. If you have black plates and paper work to prove that the vehicle they are going on once had those exact plates then you can register them on that car. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark McDonald" <tomswift@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: IML: Black Plate Cars Ad Nauseum > It has been pointed out to me that a car having a black plate on it is > no guarantee of single ownership, only that the car has been registered > its whole life in California (although I guess even that isn't true, if > you can get the black plates on it later). > > I guess this is a classic case of the dictionary definition of a term > vs. the connotation of a term-- or what the term implies, not just what > it literally means. In strict dictionary definition terms, yes, I > suppose the term "black plate car" only means that a car has old black > California plates on it, and has presumably spent most of its life in > California. > > However, the connotation of this term is something else. The first time > I heard this phrase it was uttered by a friend of mine as if he had > found a secret cache of some kind of illegal, but highly valuable, > substance-- "I heard there's this low mileage, black plate ------ > sitting in the back of this garage in San Pedro. Hasn't been driven > since 1967. You wanna go see it?" > > I think this term, whenever it first got started, was taken to mean a > car that was 1) a survivor, 2) relatively unmolested, 3) usually low > mileage, 4) rustfree, and 6) very, very rare. If you found a "genuine" > black plate car you were probably buying from the first or 2nd owner and > you were getting a car that was a real gem-- even if it needed > polishing. At least, that's the way it seemed to me. > > However, as time went on, the usage of this term got to be more common > and unscrupulous sellers started applying it to anything on 4 wheels. > When I lived in California I saw black plates on cars that were ready > for the junkyard. I also saw cars advertized as black plate cars that > didn't even have black plates! They may have when the car was new, but > no more! > > Anyway, I don't think this term means what it used to anymore-- it's no > longer an indication of a rare gem hidden away in somebody's backyard, > it's just another buzzword. > > Mark > > >