bleeding brakes *

["Don Nonnweiler" <dnonnwei@xxxxxxxxx>]

1955 Mopars had a Kelsey Hayes master and power booster unlike any year ever
put on any make car.  There is only one  reproduction manufacturer for this
brake system  and he only sells it to two distributors, one on the east
coast and one on the west, at least according to the fellow I talked to at
Master Power brakes.   You will not find this at Napa or any other parts
store "real or not", I know I spent almost 6 months searching.  I have 22
Old cars right now 16 are mopars and 3 of them are 1955's.  1955's are my
favorite and in the past 30 years I believe I've had at least 14 1955's.
When I first ran into this problem I thought the same and tried to pick up a
kit at a parts store and even Kantor,but nothing for power brakes,they do
carry manual brake kits but that's all.   If someone finds another place to
acquire these kits, please let me know, but I'm usually pretty good at
searching for hard to find parts
Don aka Mopar Don
59 Crown
55 C300
55 NY
55 St Regis
49 NY 1st series
40 P10
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Pinkerton" <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: IML: bleeding brakes *


> I had no trouble ordering a master or wheel cylinder repair kit for my 54
or
> any other car I've ever owned from 40 on up.  Just go to a NAPA or other
> 'real' auto parts store.
>
> KerryP
> Patch panels fabricated
> Pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx
> dte.net/57imperial
> Imperials -- 50 Limo, 57 roadster, 61's, 64, 68 Convert, 73, a 66 300 and
a
> bunch of lesser marques
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: roger crabtree <rcrabshish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:00 AM
> Subject: Re: IML: bleeding brakes *
>
>
> > Any idea where you can get kits for the master cylder?
> >  It is the only thing in the system that has not be
> > replaced.  It seems ok but is factory original and it
> > worries me!  RC
> >
> >  --- Terry & Andree Hoeman <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote: > The power brakes on a 55 are unique to the
> > year
> > > while the wheel assemblies
> > > are the old standard from 46 on up
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "roger crabtree" <rcrabshish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:19 PM
> > > Subject: Re: IML: bleeding brakes *
> > >
> > >
> > > > I was just wondering how much difference there is
> > > in
> > > > the 54 system and the 55 system.  Your front
> > > breaks
> > > > look just like mine with the double slave
> > > cylinders.
> > > > Are the master cylinders the same between the two
> > > > years?  The part house says 55 was the only year
> > > for
> > > > that master cylinder but I dont know.  RC
> > > >
> > > >  --- Kerry Pinkerton <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hugh, there is a picture of my bleeder and
> > > > > description of the process in the
> > > > > 54 saga
> > > > >
> > > > > http://dte.net/57imperial/54Saga/54Part5.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > KerryP
> > > > > Patch panels fabricated
> > > > > Pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > dte.net/57imperial
> > > > > Imperials -- 50 Limo, 57 roadster, 61's, 64, 68
> > > > > Convert, 73, a 66 300 and a
> > > > > bunch of lesser marques
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Hugh & Therese <hugtrees@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:56 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: IML: bleeding brakes *
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kerry,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This seems to be a wonderful solution.  Simple
> > > and
> > > > > almost elegant.  Thanks
> > > > > > so much.  I look forward to trying it and will
> > > > > report back on my success.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > had not been able to concieve of such a
> > > "pressure"
> > > > > system method myself.
> > > > > > What a phenomenal internet community we have
> > > here!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Kerry Pinkerton" <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:36 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: IML: bleeding brakes *
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugh, there is a relatively simply process
> > > for
> > > > > pressure bleeding your
> > > > > > > system that will ensure NO air is in the
> > > system.
> > > > >  Get a small pump up
> > > > > > garden
> > > > > > > sprayer. (I think I gave 12 bucks for mine
> > > at
> > > > > Home Depot) Find a extra
> > > > > > > master cylinder cap, drill a hole in it and
> > > put
> > > > > some type of hose stem
> > > > > on
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > that you can adapt to the garden sprayer
> > > hose.
> > > > > Fill the garden hose
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > fresh brake fluid and give it a few pumps.
> > > Then
> > > > > start cracking the
> > > > > > bleeder
> > > > > > > valves.  The fluid will be pushed through
> > > the
> > > > > lines under pressure and
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > air should remain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is easy with two people but do-able
> > > alone.
> > > > > It doesn't take much
> > > > > > > pressure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I did this on my 54 so I could remote fill
> > > the
> > > > > master cylinder which was
> > > > > > > under the fragile carpet.  I just put a
> > > vacuum
> > > > > cap on the end of the
> > > > > > > modified cap when finished.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > KerryP
> > > > > > > Patch panels fabricated
> > > > > > > Pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > dte.net/57imperial
> > > > > > > Imperials -- 50 Limo, 57 roadster, 61's, 64,
> > > 68
> > > > > Convert, 73, a 66 300
> > > > > and
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > bunch of lesser marques
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Hugh & Therese <hugtrees@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: Imperial Mailing List
> > > > > <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:17 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: IML: bleeding brakes *
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Read with a cockney accent for full
> > > effect
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Intending to dive the Imperial on Sunday I
> > > > > backed it out of the garage
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > washed it.  I cannot remember the last
> > > time I
> > > > > washed it, so it was
> > > > > kind
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > nice to reacquaint my knuckles with all
> > > its
> > > > > nooks, crannies and
> > > > > > crevices.
> > > > > > > > Things got a little hectic and I ended up
> > > not
> > > > > using it and it stayed
> > > > > on
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > short but steep driveway until around
> > > 10:00
> > > > > PM.  Oh, you can only
> > > > > > imagine
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > joy when I restarted it to move it back
> > > into
> > > > > the garage to find I had
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > brakes.  I did when I left the garage,
> > > which
> > > > > is level, of course.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The friend who helped with the brakes last
> > > > > year, of whom some of you
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > have the highest opinion, and I had
> > > discussed
> > > > > the still less than
> > > > > > > acceptable
> > > > > > > > braking I was getting from the car.  I
> > > have
> > > > > only tried to bleed and
> > > > > > adjust
> > > > > > > > the brakes once since last year.  No air
> > > was
> > > > > found, but a one or two
> > > > > > shoes
> > > > > > > > needed to be adjusted, now the new shoes
> > > had
> > > > > seated.  We concluded
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > indeed still air in the line and that what
> > > we
> > > > > would have to do is jack
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > the rear end for a few days and let the
> > > > > bubbles rise through the fluid
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > their own accord so we could try to expel
> > > them
> > > > > once and for all.
> > > > > > > Yesterdays
> > > > > > > > impromptu experiment hopefully indicates
> > > that
> > > > > the idea just might
> > > > > work.
> > > > > > > So,
> > > > > > > > when rain has moved out of the forecast,
> > > and
> > > > > both Mark and I can find
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > time in our crowded schedules, I will park
> > > it
> > >
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