bleeding brakes *

["Terry & Andree Hoeman" <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

wheel cylinder parts are a snap for the 55 but if it has power brakes the
master cylinder is a different case altogether.   My current Windsor convert
has non power which again are easy to get parts for and a lot more failsafe.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Pinkerton" <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: IML: bleeding brakes *


> I had no trouble ordering a master or wheel cylinder repair kit for my 54
or
> any other car I've ever owned from 40 on up.  Just go to a NAPA or other
> 'real' auto parts store.
>
> KerryP
> Patch panels fabricated
> Pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx
> dte.net/57imperial
> Imperials -- 50 Limo, 57 roadster, 61's, 64, 68 Convert, 73, a 66 300 and
a
> bunch of lesser marques
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: roger crabtree <rcrabshish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:00 AM
> Subject: Re: IML: bleeding brakes *
>
>
> > Any idea where you can get kits for the master cylder?
> >  It is the only thing in the system that has not be
> > replaced.  It seems ok but is factory original and it
> > worries me!  RC
> >
> >  --- Terry & Andree Hoeman <tehoema@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote: > The power brakes on a 55 are unique to the
> > year
> > > while the wheel assemblies
> > > are the old standard from 46 on up
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "roger crabtree" <rcrabshish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:19 PM
> > > Subject: Re: IML: bleeding brakes *
> > >
> > >
> > > > I was just wondering how much difference there is
> > > in
> > > > the 54 system and the 55 system.  Your front
> > > breaks
> > > > look just like mine with the double slave
> > > cylinders.
> > > > Are the master cylinders the same between the two
> > > > years?  The part house says 55 was the only year
> > > for
> > > > that master cylinder but I dont know.  RC
> > > >
> > > >  --- Kerry Pinkerton <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hugh, there is a picture of my bleeder and
> > > > > description of the process in the
> > > > > 54 saga
> > > > >
> > > > > http://dte.net/57imperial/54Saga/54Part5.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > KerryP
> > > > > Patch panels fabricated
> > > > > Pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > dte.net/57imperial
> > > > > Imperials -- 50 Limo, 57 roadster, 61's, 64, 68
> > > > > Convert, 73, a 66 300 and a
> > > > > bunch of lesser marques
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Hugh & Therese <hugtrees@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:56 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: IML: bleeding brakes *
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kerry,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This seems to be a wonderful solution.  Simple
> > > and
> > > > > almost elegant.  Thanks
> > > > > > so much.  I look forward to trying it and will
> > > > > report back on my success.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > had not been able to concieve of such a
> > > "pressure"
> > > > > system method myself.
> > > > > > What a phenomenal internet community we have
> > > here!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hugh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Kerry Pinkerton" <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:36 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: IML: bleeding brakes *
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hugh, there is a relatively simply process
> > > for
> > > > > pressure bleeding your
> > > > > > > system that will ensure NO air is in the
> > > system.
> > > > >  Get a small pump up
> > > > > > garden
> > > > > > > sprayer. (I think I gave 12 bucks for mine
> > > at
> > > > > Home Depot) Find a extra
> > > > > > > master cylinder cap, drill a hole in it and
> > > put
> > > > > some type of hose stem
> > > > > on
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > that you can adapt to the garden sprayer
> > > hose.
> > > > > Fill the garden hose
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > fresh brake fluid and give it a few pumps.
> > > Then
> > > > > start cracking the
> > > > > > bleeder
> > > > > > > valves.  The fluid will be pushed through
> > > the
> > > > > lines under pressure and
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > air should remain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is easy with two people but do-able
> > > alone.
> > > > > It doesn't take much
> > > > > > > pressure.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I did this on my 54 so I could remote fill
> > > the
> > > > > master cylinder which was
> > > > > > > under the fragile carpet.  I just put a
> > > vacuum
> > > > > cap on the end of the
> > > > > > > modified cap when finished.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > KerryP
> > > > > > > Patch panels fabricated
> > > > > > > Pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > dte.net/57imperial
> > > > > > > Imperials -- 50 Limo, 57 roadster, 61's, 64,
> > > 68
> > > > > Convert, 73, a 66 300
> > > > > and
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > bunch of lesser marques
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Hugh & Therese <hugtrees@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > To: Imperial Mailing List
> > > > > <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:17 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: IML: bleeding brakes *
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > * Read with a cockney accent for full
> > > effect
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Intending to dive the Imperial on Sunday I
> > > > > backed it out of the garage
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > washed it.  I cannot remember the last
> > > time I
> > > > > washed it, so it was
> > > > > kind
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > nice to reacquaint my knuckles with all
> > > its
> > > > > nooks, crannies and
> > > > > > crevices.
> > > > > > > > Things got a little hectic and I ended up
> > > not
> > > > > using it and it stayed
> > > > > on
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > short but steep driveway until around
> > > 10:00
> > > > > PM.  Oh, you can only
> > > > > > imagine
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > joy when I restarted it to move it back
> > > into
> > > > > the garage to find I had
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > brakes.  I did when I left the garage,
> > > which
> > > > > is level, of course.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The friend who helped with the brakes last
> > > > > year, of whom some of you
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > have the highest opinion, and I had
> > > discussed
> > > > > the still less than
> > > > > > > acceptable
> > > > > > > > braking I was getting from the car.  I
> > > have
> > > > > only tried to bleed and
> > > > > > adjust
> > > > > > > > the brakes once since last year.  No air
> > > was
> > > > > found, but a one or two
> > > > > > shoes
> > > > > > > > needed to be adjusted, now the new shoes
> > > had
> > > > > seated.  We concluded
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > indeed still air in the line and that what
> > > we
> > > > > would have to do is jack
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > the rear end for a few days and let the
> > > > > bubbles rise through the fluid
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > their own accord so we could try to expel
> > > them
> > > > > once and for all.
> > > > > > > Yesterdays
> > > > > > > > impromptu experiment hopefully indicates
> > > that
> > > > > the idea just might
> > > > > work.
> > > > > > > So,
> > > > > > > > when rain has moved out of the forecast,
> > > and
> > > > > both Mark and I can find
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > time in our crowded schedules, I will park
> > > it
> > >
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