I guess in theory. I've seen a lot of sludged up engines that ran detergent oil too. The problem with sludge is more lack of oil change and harsh operating conditions imho. I tend to change oil every 3K miles or 1 year and have never had a problem. Doesn't mean there would not be one if you drove with 50W non-detergent for years. Remember, I do this when the alternative is a near term engine rebuild. Any extra life and driving I get as a consequence if free miles. Kerry --- DR CHALLENGER <drchallenger@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > won;t a non detergent oil result in sludge in the > motor? > > > >From: KerryPinkerton <pinkertonk@xxxxxxxxx> > >>Ok, We need a test case. I hear and understand > what > >D2 is saying and actually agree with his words. > I;m > >struggling with the difference between the theory > that > >D2 correctly describes and what I perceive to be > the > >real world. > > > >In my experience, if you have a car that smokes A > >LITTLE, especially at startup, then running > Vavoline > >40 or even 50W racing oil (non detergent) will > greatly > >reduce the smoking AND increase oil pressure. The > >downside is that when it is VERY COLD (40 or less) > it > >seems a little harder to crank and oil pressure > does > >not pop up quite as fast but still pops right up. > >What works for me may be because I have rather > sedate > >driving habits but based on what D2 said, my > solution > >would actually be better for hard driving except > >possibly for a few seconds at startup. After all, > >it's RACING oil. > > > >A car which smokes probably has extra clearance in > the > >journals and the heavier oil seems to take up some > of > >the slack hence higher oil pressure. Yep the heavy > >oil can get SLOOW when cold but my thinking is that > it > >will also stay in place on the journals while the > >pressure is coming up. Anyway, in 37 years of > messing > >with old cars, this has worked for me and saved me > >several rebuilds because I won't drive a smoking > car. > > I've never had an engine seize or develop a > knock. > >If it doesn't smoke, has decent oil pressure, and > has > >not other mechanical problems, I'm perfectly > content > >to let my money get smaller in the stock market > rather > >than building an engine. However, this is MY > OPINION, > >what we need is a test of sorts. > > > >I'm willing to make this offer to ONE person. If > >someone has a car that smokes a little (enough to > be > >noticable and be able to tell if it smokes less > after > >the test), is due for an oil change, and normally > runs > >a multigrade detergent oil change it and put in > >Vavoline 40 or 50W racing oil (Autozone, walmart, > >advance, etc). The racing just means non > detergent. > >IF it does not, IN YOUR OPINION, reduce smoking, > I'll > >pay for the oil and filter and you can change it > back > >to whatever you want. This does not include labor > so > >I guess I'm looking for a do-it-yourselfer. > > > >This will be first come only to the FIRST person > who > >emails me privately. When I get a volunteer, I'll > >post who it is and we'll await the results. > > > >Kerryp > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN > Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > >