Well, I don't know about that. It has to do with steering ratio etc. I've driven vehicles WAY bigger than any Imperial that had no power steering and they drove just fine. Sure, you had to put a little more effort into it but it was totally manageable. Actually, for a couple years, I drove a city bus that had a power steering gearbox but no power steering. That was a bit more of a challenge as the ratio was still low but I had no help. It was easiest in the winter when the temperature was between 0 and -20. If you had to make a fast corner, you pressed the brakes enough to make the front wheels slide on the snow and then steering was easy...hold on when you realease the brakes though cause it then took off in a different direction. ahhhh the old days! ----- Original Message ----- From: <dardal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: Re: IML: Powerbrakes.... It depends how much car you drive. Imperials were very large and heavy cars. Power brakes and steering were beyond comfort, they were absolutely necessary. Without them, the car cannot be driven. In a car of the size of a Toyota or a Honda, these accesories can be optional. D^2