In a message dated 31/05/02 02:56:52 GMT Daylight Time, walker@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: << The restraint in your response is much more impressive than that offered by your brakes. By the way, how did you come to a stop? >> Fortunately, I was not not going fast at the time and I was on a clear, flat road. As a matter of habit, I always try to leave extra space between the car in front and my Imp, so when I pressed the pedal and felt that horrible sinking feeling as it went right down to the floor I was able to pull into the side of the road. A few minutes earlier and on the narrow, mountain section of the road it may have been a different story. On the subject of copper brake pipes, clearly there are those among you who think this is dangerous. I have to say copper pipes are common in the U.K. and in some cases favoured because they do not rust and are easy to shape. I have never had a copper pipe rupture and I have had plenty. Is this risk particular to heavy U.S. cars? If so I will ensure that the replacement pipes are steel. Tony V.