Not surprisingly, I developed my love for automobiles while in high school. Friends were often rabidly brand loyal, but I wasn't that way. There were simply certain designs that I really liked, and many that i didn't. I just LOVED the 61 Continentals. Ended up owning 4 of them (1 driver, 3 parts cars). Really liked the 65/66 Fury model and took a 66 Sport Fury to 195k miles. Stumbled onto a 65 monaco and immediately fell in love with it. Still have it. Saw a 70 LeBaron in 1984 and, again, just had to have it. Champagne over turquoise with black leather. Beautiful. Imagine my surprise when, years later, I discover that 1 designer had a major influence on all these cars! Imagine my astonishment when I discover that we share a last name!!! No relation as far as I know, but the correct spelling IS Engel. Pete in PA