These brakes may have been troublesome, but they sure did stop the car. Anyone that read the comparison of the 3 69 luxury cars knows that the Imperials stopping distance beat the others hands down. John Peter Engel wrote: > Hi all, > > There is probably a reason that the 69 Imperial SM warns against cutting > the brake rotors: warranty experience proved it to be a problem. > > I'd say that the rotors were designed to be just barely thick enough in > the first place. Weight (mass, actually) in motion is kinetic energy > and your brakes convert that kinetic energy into heat energy during a > stop. More weight means more heat during stops. The same type of brake > caliper is used on 67?-72 Dusters, Demons, Valiants, and Darts. So > Chrysler continued to use the design for 3 addition model years. Why? > Probably because those cars are much lighter and easier on the brake > components. > > Cutting a rotor down to smooth the faces isn't inherently evil (unless > done purely for profit) and won't make the part structurally unsound (so > long as the machining isn't extreme). The problem is that a too-thin > rotor will not be strong enough to withstand the heat it absorbs during > a hard stop and it will warp. I'm betting that Chrysler initially > allowed minor "cleaning up" of the rotors in 67 but immediatey had tons > of warranty claims for pedal pulsation and other, similar, un-Imperial > like, brake problems. They therefore made it a no no to machine the > rotors at all. > > I'm also guessing that the caliper design limited the initial rotor > thickness. With the fixed caliper, the pistons have to do all the > "taking up" as the pads wear. You only allow a piston to move so far > out of its bore before cocking is a problem so that was certainly a > concern. And the dust seals can only extend so far before they won't > seal reliably. So the engineers were walking a fine line: 1) pistons > can only extend so far out of their bores, 2) pads have to be of a > certain thickness for adequate service life, 3) calipers can only be so > wide before interference with wheels or suspension components is a > problem, 4) so rotors can, therefore, be only 0.875" thick (or whatever > the original thickness was). > > With warranty claims piling up, Chrysler quickly canned the Budd system > and went to the trouble-free sliding caliper design for 1970 Imperials. > > Pete in PA >