--- julian Williams <hipjulian@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > why dosent the car insurance industry > want to insure old cars Insurance is risk management. The newer the vehcle, the fewer the variables in estimating repair costs due to available parts prices and recent track record of what others cost to fix on average. It has been my experience that the industry will almost universally attempt to total your old car when it comes times to settle if there is much body work involved. Normally settlement is for several thousand dollars, as it is difficult for them to distinguish the value of your car. While List members value their cars highly, most of the general public just views them as old cars, and are willing to settle low, hence the Insurers offering low. How much will it cost to repair a smashed 1971 "old car"? -Unknown and varies by rarity. A cadillac or Chevvy might be easy, but you still have to go to a junk yard to get the parts (will your body man do that?). What about an Imperial? Where would you get parts if you were not part of the list? Car gets totaled when the industry can't handle it. Given the choice between a 5 year old Honda and your car, the body shop is going to go for the job that can be done with parts that can be ordered and estimated accurately with out risking taking a loss and tying up too much time and shop space. Lastly: If you get offered settlement on your totaled Imperial and are going to cash out, make certain to ask how the claims adjuster is arriving at the figure they are offering. I was offered a random $2,500 for a 1971 car that I had. I showed them a bunch of ads for the same car in Hemmings along with my photos and receipts for all of the parts that I had bought, successfully arguing that I had a cream-puff car equal to the top-dollar car in the 12 ads. It was not an Imp, hence the high number of ads, but you get the idea. They just needed the information to make an argument to their adjuster boss. I got $8,500 (!), and that's cheap compared to many of the cars that these guys total out on a daily basis. This means that I was actually under the average payout for totaled vehicles, and this also made some sort of sense to the adjuster, who sensed that I had a personal stake in the car, while he didn't. (plus I went in there at 4:30 pm on a Friday on purpose and talked and stalled) ===== Kenyon Wills 6o LeBaron - America's Most Carefully Built Car 73 LeBaron - Long Low & Luxurious __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/