Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
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Re: IML: 59 413 engine color



Yes, I was just talking to someone about that distinction, I plan to leave the original oil pump on the engine. Thanks, David ----- Original Message ----- From: <mopar413@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Cc: "Rob van der Es" <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color


Remember that there is a difference between high volume and high pressure.?? I agree you do not need the high pressure pump.
---- Rob van der Es <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi David,

I agree with Paul Wentink! Stick with the original components if you can, these engines were not known for oilpressure problems! In fact they are very healthy and well designed engines with lots of built in reserves :)
A new standard oil pump will do the job perfectly I think.
Remember, it is not always better to have a higher oilpressure then the designer of the engine had in mind!! An oilpressure that is too high can cause oil leakage (because the gaskets can't stand the higher pressue), or oilburning because the engine gets more oil at a higher pressure.

Maybe you have read the starter motor trick to remove that balancer bolt? I will try it myself and will let you know if it worked out.
Seems like a great idea to me!

Rob
----- Original Message ----- From: david carpenter
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  Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:58 PM
  Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color


If the oil pan is off you can wedge a piece of wood in the crank shaft or wedge a big screw driver between the crank pulley and engine block, be careful not to damage anything. I use a spud wrench with 5 ft length of pipe on the end to increase leverage, no problem. As I recall we had to unscrew the crank bolt pull the balancer about 1/2 inch and then back the puller off and unscrew it some more.
  What about the issue of keeping all the original components?
  My mechanic friend says get a better oil pump.
  Regards, David
----- Original Message ----- From: Rob van der Es
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    Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:44 AM
    Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color


    Hi David,

Look at www.440source.com for a high pressure oil pump. They have lots of nice stuff for our engines! With regard to the balancer, I always thought that you have to slacken that big central bolt a little before you can remove the balancer?
    But how do you loosen up that one?
    I heard that these bolts are very difficult to remove?

    Robert
----- Original Message ----- From: david carpenter
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      Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:31 PM
      Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color


We just using a standard harmonic balancer remover, of course leaving the bolt in place and loosening the bolt as we backed the balancer off. No problems. I just found out that my block and heads are not cracked which was good news. My engine had water in the oil and so far have not found the source or leak for the water. I am wondering whether to have another machine shop test them again. I would hate to completely rebuilding the engine only to discover that there is still a small crack somewhere. Someone suggested that I replace the oil pump with a higher pressure pump. Any thoughts on that? Thanks, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob van der Es
        To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:22 AM
        Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color


        Hi David,

Presuming that the 59 is similair to a 60 engine (both are the RB version) the main engine block is black. The intake manifold is also black, the airfilter housing is gold, the cruisecontrol housing (from Perfect Circle) is also black. My waterpump was re-newed so it is shiny metal (alu-look), but I guess it was originally black too.
        The black on my engine is semi gloss.

I hope this helps you a little further in your rebuilding project. Speaking about rebuilding, was it difficult to find all the necessary parts? Since this is a RB block one could expect some difficulties I think..

And, btw, do you have a good trick to remove that bolt that keeps the harmonic balancer on the crankshaft? I am in progress of replacing the timing chain of my engine, but are a little afraid to start cause everyone told me that
        this bolt is very hard to remove..
Especially with the engine in the car, ofcourse I don't want to remove the engine for a relative "simple" job like replacing the timing chain!!

        Robert
----- Original Message ----- From: david carpenter
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          Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:26 AM
          Subject: IML: 59 413 engine color


I am rebuilding my 413 and wondering about color. I understand the main engine block is black. Is the intake manifold black? I know the air filter is gold What about the cruise control housing? Is the water pump black? Was the black a gloss or semi gloss. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is a great website for imperial owners and I really enjoy the quick feedback. Thank you, David Carpenter


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