Re: IML: 59 413 engine color

[<wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Not a bad idea. An eight-cylinder engine will stop in one of four places each time, due to compression (A 6-cylinder will have 3 spots, a 4 will have 2). When you start the car, the starter hits those same teeth over and over, eventually wearing them down more than the others.


David C. Wilker Jr.
USAF (RET)

---- Percy en Caroline <percy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> As much as I like nifty wrenching techniques, I hate worn ring gears. Most 
> engines have a tendency to stop in the same position (revolution) iow the 
> same teeth have the most wear. Perhaps it's a good idea to bump the starter 
> a few times  before trying this aproach?
> 
> went to the dentist last week, no laughing matter.             Percy, 
> Amsterdam
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Rob Kidd" <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
> 
> 
> >I have had this happen too, and what usually occurs is the starter simply 
> >does not have the power to turn the engine with the breaker bar secured. In 
> >that case, you go to "Plan B".
> >
> > David C. Wilker Jr.
> > USAF (RET)
> >
> > ---- Rob Kidd <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>    Sounds easy enough. BUT, what if the bolt was siezed in
> >> the crankshaft tighter than normal and you would shear a
> >> tooth on the starter or the ring gear since the engine
> >> would not normally turn over freely from a dead stop?
> >> Remember, 48+ year old "worn" parts you are dealing with.
> >> I'd try the impact route on the bolt if possible.  Rob Kidd
> >> 61/65
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:35:32 -0600
> >>  "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >Sounds a little scary to me but if you do it this way, I'd
> >> >certainly disconnect the coil wire to make absolutely no
> >> >way the engine would accidently start with the breaker bar
> >> >in place.
> >> >Stevan Miner
> >> >Miner Auto Service
> >> >Winnebago, MN
> >> >
> >> >--------------------------------------------------
> >> >From: <mopar413@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:21 PM
> >> >To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >Cc: "Dave Wilker" <wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
> >> >
> >> >> Dave has the right idea.  Just do like he says and make
> >> >sure the socket is
> >> >> on right.  Workd every time. for me.
> >> >> ---- Dave Wilker <wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>> I have a trick. I place the proper size socket on the
> >> >harmonic balancer
> >> >>> bolt, with appropriate extensions, and a good stout
> >> >breaker bar. I turn
> >> >>> the crank carefully until the breaker bar is resting on
> >> >the left frame
> >> >>> rail (driver's side). Once all the tools are firmly in
> >> >place, I bump the
> >> >>> starter. Just a bump. This breaks the bolt loose so you
> >> >can remove it
> >> >>> easily. Be careful when doing this. Make sure the
> >> >socket is all the way
> >> >>> on and there is no slack in the setup.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> David C. Wilker Jr.
> >> >>> USAF (RET)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >>>   From: Rob van der Es
> >> >>>   To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>   Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:22 AM
> >> >>>   Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   Hi David,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   And, btw, do you have a good trick to remove that
> >> >bolt that keeps the
> >> >>> harmonic balancer on the crankshaft?
> >> >>>   I am in progress of replacing the timing chain of my
> >> >engine, but are a
> >> >>> little afraid to start cause everyone told me that
> >> >>>   this bolt is very hard to remove..
> >> >>>   Especially with the engine in the car, ofcourse I
> >> >don't want to remove
> >> >>> the engine for a relative "simple" job like replacing
> >> >the timing chain!!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   Robert
> >> >>
> >> >>
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