Re: IML: Imperial "Rarity" in collector terms?

["Darrell Smith" <dssmithdc@xxxxxxxxx>]

As attributed to Kenyon: "69-73 cars seem less common - I stongly suspect that
they may wind up being incredibly scarce because
"nobody" seems to be paying attention to them."

If "nobody" is paying attention to them, where are they going?  Well,
besides my collection, as well as yours and Elijah's.  Please don't
say the scrap heap, because then I'll cry.

Agreed though, its not about actual production numbers, its about the
desirability, and who really, really wants one.

Darrell


On 10/1/07, Kenyon Wills <imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 1960 LeBaron is a small population and is thus easier
> to gauge, I argue to myself.
>
> Production:
> 999 Ht and 600 Sedans.
>
> I have paid very close attention to them for the last
> decade online and elsewhere as I've been helping on
> the site and doing other related Imperial things.
>
> Here is what I know in my gut:
>
> 1.  Cadillac was the top seller for volume in 1960.
> 2.  Imperial was about 10% of that (and was so for
> many other years as well).
> 3.  Surviving cars seem to be 10% production.
> 4.  Running/registered cars seem to be 10% of that
> 5.  Number 1 or strong number 2 cars seem to be 10% of
> that, with perhaps 4-6 really top notch cars around
> followed by a few people (such as myself with more
> aspiration than
>
> These rules also seem to apply to other, newer
> Imperials, and the pre 1960 cars seem to be
> significantly lower.
>
> 64-66 cars seem more common (they did sell a lot of
> those, comparatively).
>
> 69-73 cars seem less common - I stongly suspect that
> they may wind up being incredibly scarce because
> "nobody" seems to be paying attention to them.
>
> 74-79 cars seem to still be coming out of the woodwork
> in super "old-person owner" condition as their current
> owners pass away or lose their licences.
>
>
> Since we have a hell of a time convincing folks that
> the Imperial Registry is worth the energy and we're in
> as good a place as anyone to count survuvors that way,
> any claims of "1 of 100 left" or so forth are simply
> bogus and should be suspect.
>
> In fact, pretty much EVERYTHING that you read in
> almost ANY ebay ad should be considered suspect, since
> I've sold cars with photos that were taken to offer
> meticulous honesty and I've looked at the ad and seen
> a car that looked nicer than it did in person.
>
> The only ebay ad that you should trust would be the
> one from someone that you know, who genuinely knows
> what they're talking about (Dick B would be on my
> short-list).
>
> All of the baggage that goes with the words "USED CAR"
> goes quadruple on an OLD used car, and relative
> scarcity really doesn't mean all that much, since our
> cars are relatively underpriced and are likely to stay
> in that category.  They're in company with Marmons,
> Whites, Hupmobiles, AMX Javelins, and Hudsons for all
> the collector community cares.  Old car purchases are
> based on taste and emotion, NOT relative scarcity (in
> Imperial's case, anyway).
>
> -K
>
>
>
>
>
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