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 Too bad Fred, shipment is US only.. 
  
Thanks anyway, 
  
Robert 
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:12 
  PM 
  Subject: Re: IML: Winter Car 
Storage 
  
  
  Check this e-bay site out: 
  
  They may ship to you. 
  The price is reasonable since most places are more expensive than 
  Wal-Mart.
 
  
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    Original Message ----- From: "Rob van der Es" 
     To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: 
    Re: IML: Winter Car Storage Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:27:25 
    +0200
   
    
    Hello Fred, 
      
    Thanks for the useful info! I guess the tank 
    capacity of a 1960 Imperial is 23 gallons, so I might be in for the large 
    can.. 
    Now lets find out how I can get it 
    here... 
      
    It doesn't look that hazardous to me, and I 
    won't be more flammable then a container with odorant I think.. 
    So I don't see a problem why I cant be send by 
    USPS priority mail, ofcourse packed in a strong box. 
    It might be better however that it only 
    contains a car " maintance" product. 
    Without any further details ofcourse 
    :) 
      
    It would be great to prepare my car for the 
    winter the right way this time :) 
    I hope I can work something out to get me a tin 
    of this stuff! 
      
    Thanks, 
      
    Robert 
    
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      Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 
      3:53 PM 
      Subject: Re: IML: Winter Car 
      Storage 
      
  
      Sta-Bil is a gas additive which helps reduce gas degradation 
      over time. 
      You need something like 1 oz StaBil / gallon of gas. Not sure. I 
      usually add a little more that is suggested for an extra safety margin. 
       
      I need to get my winter bottle soon. 
      I usually have the tank mostly empty with enough gas to get through 
      the monthly winter engine warm ups.  
      Sta-Bil It is available in small plastic bottles from about 4 oz to 1 
      quart. Local Wal-Marts have it in 32 oz (quart) bottle for about $9. 
      I am not sure how flammable or hazardous it is?  
      
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        Original Message ----- From: "Rob van der Es" 
         To: 
        mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: IML: Winter Car 
        Storage Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:01:17 +0200
   
        
        
        Sorry Fred, 
          
        But what is Stabil exactly for kind of 
        stuff? 
        When is it necessary to add it to your 
        fuel? 
        And another maybe trivial question, do you 
        store your car for the winter with an empty fuel tank or completely 
        filled up to the fuel cap? 
          
        I have choosen for the last option for the 
        last two winters, cause I am afraid that an empty fuel tank will corrode 
        inside... 
          
        I haven't add any special mystery stuff 
        like Stabil to the fuel, and the car fired right up after 5 months of 
        storage! 
        I use always Shell V-Power fuel in my car 
        and had no problems with storage for over 6 months, but maybe I am 
        trying my luck here ? 
          
        Robert 
        
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          Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 
          2007 4:23 AM 
          Subject: Re: IML: Winter Car 
          Storage 
          
  
          I live in Eastern WA where the winters are a little more 
          "normal". 
          I put up one of the carport tents from Costco on several inches 
          of gravel. I also have a sheet of clear poly over the car which is 
          kept off the car by judicious use of 2x4. 
          The poly is needed because there is plenty of condensation 
          dropping from the roof. I have had no rodent problems, but I do have a 
          dog that can get to the car. 
          I certainly like this set up much more than outside storage. The 
          biggest problem is that the carport is 10' x 20' so the 69 LeBaron 
          only just fits!   
          I run my car about once a month get it good and warm and roll it 
          back and forward about 6' and use Stabil (sp) in the fuel. 
            
 
  
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            Original Message ----- From: randalpark@xxxxxxx To: 
            mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: IML: Winter Car 
            Storage Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:25:03 -0400
 
  Jack's 
            solution here is ideal.
  Most of mine are in garages with 
            concrete  floors as well, but a couple of them are  relegated 
            to the carports. Here in Washington  State our winters are mild 
            enough that things  don't get too bad. Keeping the cars running 
            and  moving them around is the best answer for the  ones that 
            don't get to spend the winter in an  actual garage. When 
            possible, they should all  be driven at least once a 
            month.
  Some one commented on the collection of water  on 
            top of the tarp, and then condensing under  the car. This has 
            also happened to me. I just  don't think that for my area, tarps 
            are very  good for protecting against much of anything.  They 
            tend to cause as many problems as they  prevent. Truly, the cars 
            need to either be  properly stored indoors, with no gas, and if 
             possible raised up off the floor, or they  should be driven 
            to keep things warmed up and  moving around.
  Paul 
            W.
 
  -----Original Message----- From: 
            YBSHORE@xxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 
            25 Sep 2007 1:28 pm Subject: Re: IML: Winter Car 
            Storage
 
 
 
  In a message dated 9/25/2007 4:41:32 P.M. 
             Eastern Daylight Time, randalpark@xxxxxxx 
             writes:
  Last year I put a tarp underneath one of my cars, 
            parked in a car port. Gradually, the hood insulation pad began to 
            disappear. In the spring when I removed the tarp from under the 
            car, I found it, along with two giant brown rats. I won't be 
            doing that again. I'll just have to move the cars around more 
            often and try to drive them occasionally to keep them 
            dry.
  Paul W.
 
 
 
  Imperialist Paul, et 
            al:
   
      I am fortunate 
            enough to have dry,  concrete floor barn [unheated except for an 
             isolated shop at the rear] that I store my  cars in 
            and, I found that the concrete has a  breathing factor as 
            well -although I start and  'rotate' the cars around on 
            nicer winter days  here in New England, just as a matter of 
            course  --I have wondered about concrete-to-tire  issues, and 
            not just flat spots-- though I do  not leave the cars in one 
            place long enough  for that to happen, generally.....anyway, 
             though inside, I lessened my moisture/mold  concerns a 
            few years ago by going to the local  Lowe's and for 5 bucks a 
            sheet for 7/16  sheathing, I layed the 4 X 8 sheets out on 
            the  barn floor butt to butt and in conjunction with  a GOOD 
            cover, I have been able to  stay unscathed and the cars 
            remain turnkey  all winter, and as fresh as when I 'rested 
             them' for the season....just the old .02 from  gorgeous New 
            England today where the 80+ degree  weather has been very good to 
            the '56 Imperial  and her touring....and thank you, too, WPC as 
             well as Mr. Exner, for I NEVER tire of looking  at 
            her....
   
  Jack
 
 
 
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