Prior to owning any Ford automobiles, I had no reason to keep type F on hand. Now that has changed, but I still store it on a separate shelf in my shop. I don't use it for anything but my Ford automatics (the newest being a 1986). I don't know that it will hurt anything, although my source, who was a stock car driver in the early '70's, said emphatically NO. I have always simply believed him, and remember that he never blew up an engine on the track. A chemist (I'm not one) might know what, if anything, supports this.
When I was in the process of getting my '55 Imperial going after it had been parked for 35 years, I used only Dextron type ATF in the crank case and down the spark plug holes. This was done after cleaning out the oil pan and to loosen things up during initial cranking. It is a excellent lubricant/detergent, and easily penetrates everything. It also mixes with the oil, which is why I am more comfortable using it instead of solvent to clean out a crank case. What remained in the system after draining was an asset to cleaning, while remaining solvent will "fight" with the oil. The procedure was a success, and the engine still runs smoothly and quietly. Friends who have tried other treatments have had continuing issues with noisy lifters, stuck valves, etc. This procedure also worked successfully on my FMC V-12 after it had been parked for over 40 years. I believe that Marvel Mystery Oil has the same properties and could even be more beneficial in these circumstances. I didn't use it.
I have added ATF to top off the power steering in a pinch, but was told NEVER to use type F for that either. Another note on this topic, I was advised that it was okay to use ATF (again not type F) in the hydraulic accessory pump on my old 40's vehicle instead of brake fluid, while using type F or even DOT 5 brake fluid in the same unit would void the warranty on the new pump. Along that line, I have also heard that DOT 5 doesn't work in ABS brake systems. I don't have a car that new, so I don't know myself the reason why or if it is even true. That is one system that we don't fool around with. ALWAYS USE ONLY PROPER BRAKE FLUID IN THE BRAKE SYSTEM.
Clearly, there are chemical properties to all of these solutions which differentiate them enough allowing some substitutions. All my vehicles are old and I do not consider any of these "old timer" ideas to be applicable to newer cars. The general rule is IF IN DOUBT, DON'T DO IT.
Paul W. -----Original Message----- From: dansgarage@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: randalpark@xxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 7:52 PM Subject: Re: IML: LIFTERSHi Paul! got a dumb question, why NOT the Type 'F' ATF ??what would it do ??
Thanks Dan melnik ---- randalpark@xxxxxxx wrote: ============= Sometimes adding a pint of ATF (but not Type F) to the oil will help clean or dislodge dirt that may be causing the lifter to hang up. That said, if the engine needs work, additives won't fix the problem. Paul W. -----Original Message----- From: fljoslin@xxxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: IML: LIFTERS You can try to add one of the engine cleaning additives which you run for a couple of minutes before an oil change. This may clean stuff enough to allow you to remove the lifters if they are stuck due to gunk . ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Dimitriou" To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: IML: LIFTERS Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:11:47 -0800 (PST) Invert car, shake vigorously. Sorry, just kidding. Try http://fordsix.com/forum. Dave Bruce Stubblefield <audiblefeast@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello, OK, it's not my Imperial lifters, but I'm throwing myself on the mercy of the list. Hopefully it applies to Mopars as well. I need to replace the lifters in my straight 6 cyl. '63 Ford(!) Falcon, but they don't pull out with a magnet; they pull up about 1/8" and hit some kind of stop. Pulling gently on them with needle-nosed pliers won't budge them. Does anyone know what the trick is to getting them out? thanks Bruce S _________________________________________________________________________ ___________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm Fred Joslin ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm ________________________________________________________________________Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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