Re: IML: '67 440cid freeze plugs

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Thanks again:

I think I'm armed and dangerous now.  Thanks a bunch for all the help.

Dan Richardson
'67 Imperial (engine, that is) 



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From: sosmi@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Dan, no question the manifold comes off, the best way to install the new (Brass) 
> plug, is to use the largest socket that fits the inside diameter of the 
> plug.Then pound it in, on a metal plug, you can use a sealer, a liquid teflon 
> pipe sealer works good, this also helps to lubricate and make installation 
> easier.As far as sealing the gasket, I prefer to spray both sides of the gasket, 
> that way the repair is less obvious. Be sure to clean all surfaces, of any rust, 
> or carbon.If you remove the manifold from the exhaust pipe, a dressing of the 
> port surfaces, with a file won't hurt.Don't forget don't over torque the bolts, 
> start in the middle, and work out, the ends don't need to be as tight as the 
> center bolts.Dave.
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: therichardsonfamily@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> 
> > Thanks guys: 
> > 
> > It is a driver, so I just want to get it running. However, this freeze plug is 
> > on the SIDE of the head, and the plug is completely out. I just need to 
> > re-install. Best I can figure is that the exhaust manifold MUST come off 
> first, 
> > right? 
> > 
> > 1&1/4" diameter? Hmmmm, I'll correct the one I have ordered. 
> > 
> > Got it with the rubber plug dry, and the metal re-inforced manifold gasket - 
> > sealer on both sides of the gasket? 
> > 
> > Dan Richardson 
> > '67 Imperial (engine, that is)

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• From: sosmi@xxxxxxxxxxx
• Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:08:20 +0000

Dan, no question the manifold comes off, the best way to install the new (Brass) plug, is to use the largest socket that fits the inside diameter of the plug.Then pound it in, on a metal plug, you can use a sealer, a liquid teflon pipe sealer works good, this also helps to lubricate and make installation easier.As far as sealing the gasket, I prefer to spray both sides of the gasket, that way the repair is less obvious. Be sure to clean all surfaces, of any rust, or carbon.If you remove the manifold from the exhaust pipe, a dressing of the port surfaces, with a file won't hurt.Don't forget don't over torque the bolts, start in the middle, and work out, the ends don't need to be as tight as the center bolts.Dave.

 

-------------- Original message --------------
From: therichardsonfamily@xxxxxxxxxxx

> Thanks guys:
>
> It is a driver, so I just want to get it running. However, this freeze plug is
> on the SIDE of the head, and the plug is completely out. I just need to
> re-install. Best I can figure is that the exhaust manifold MUST come off first,
> right?
>
> 1&1/4" diameter? Hmmmm, I'll correct the one I have ordered.
>
> Got it with the rubber plug dry, and the metal re-inforced manifold gasket -
> sealer on both sides of the gasket?
>
> Dan Richardson
> '67 Imperial (engine, that is)
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: sosmi@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Dave, I've thought the same way, when it's a driver, who cares? I was at
> Detroit
> > Drag-Way, and lost a freeze plug on one of my Road Runners, it was a small
> leak,
> > I removed a screw from the sill plate and screwed it in the hole.We finished
> the
> > days racing, I drove that car for another year, and never replaced the
> > plug.Dave.
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "Dave Wilker"
> >
> > > This will probably raise howls of indignation, but when I have had to remove
> > > back-of-the-head freeze plugs ('73 Charger, '65 Ford PU) I have been able to
> > > make a small opening in the firewall, use a punch to knock the plug
> > > sideways, remove it and install the new one.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David C. Wilker Jr.
> > > USAF (RET)
>

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• From: therichardsonfamily@xxxxxxxxxxx
• Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:56:51 +0000

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• From: sosmi@xxxxxxxxxxx
• Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:20:03 +0000

Dave, I've thought the same way, when it's a driver, who cares? I was at Detroit Drag-Way, and lost a freeze plug on one of my Road Runners, it was a small leak, I removed a screw from the sill plate and screwed it in the hole.We finished the days racing, I drove that car for another year, and never replaced the plug.Dave.

 

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Dave Wilker" <wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx>

> This will probably raise howls of indignation, but when I have had to remove
> back-of-the-head freeze plugs ('73 Charger, '65 Ford PU) I have been able to
> make a small opening in the firewall, use a punch to knock the plug
> sideways, remove it and install the new one.
>
>
>
> David C. Wilker Jr.
> USAF (RET)
>
>
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> From:
> To: "IML"
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 8:14 AM
> Subject: IML: '67 440cid freeze plugs
>
>
> > Hi everyone:
> >
> > Can anyone confirm the diameter of the freeze plug in the head on my '67
> > Imperial 4 40cid? The local auto parts store shows 1&1/2".
> >
> > Also, any issues with using the rubber type of plug in the head? I'm
> > trying to do this with the engine in the car, I think the rubber kind will
> > be easier. The bad plug is on the passenger side between the back 2
> > exhaust ports, behind the exhaust manifold. Is the rubber plug OK next to
> > all that heat? It is a somewhat temporary fix, and I'm prepared to do it
> > again, if needed. I just want to get her running again.
> >
> > When I pull the exhaust manifold, I'll need a new gasket. Any special
> > choices on the type? Do I use a high heat gasket sealer on it?
> >
> > Thanks for any tips offered.
> >
> > Dan Richardson
> > '67 Imperial (engine in my '65 300L Family Heirloom)
> >
> >
> >
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