I recently purchased the ATCII Diagnostic Tool referenced in the FSM. I have not dealt with my Auto temp II due to the mild climate here, but plan to master this system now that I have 3 cars with it. If you want to "rent" the tool for a fraction of the $250 that I spent for it, please write to me off-list. It's a small plastic box with some wires and stuff. I have not bothered to look in the FSM where the instructions on its use are supposedly to be found. -Kenyon --- Tim Durrer <tdkd99@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I also have a '73 LeBaron that I am in the middle of > repairing various things on. One of which is the > Auto > Temp II. I have ordered a replacement servo from > Performance Analysis in Oakridge TN. They are > expensive, but well worth the cost. If yours still > has > the old plastic design unit under the hood it will > eventually crack and leak coolant (If it is not > already cracked). When I got my car the previous > owner > had bypassed the unit for this reason. > > As to your switch issue I am a little confused. You > said you remember a bundle of vacuum lines that > seemed > to go nowhere. Were they capped off by any chance? > It > would seem to me you would hear a distinctive hiss > coming from under the dash the last time you drove > the > car if they were not. Are you sure the actuator > itself > does not have the bracket the switch is mounted to? > It > could be they just installed the wrong actuator and > said the heck with switch when it would not bolt up. > > I don't have a parts book to verify the difference > on > ATC versus non ATC parts. Is the actuator connected > by > any chance? > > My car is currently at my Dad's in a different part > of > the state having some engine work done to it. I > should > be able to pick it up in a couple of weeks and I > will > check mine to see how it is set up. I currently have > the glove box out, so I should be able to see the > switch and how it mounts easily. I will let you know > what I find out. Where did you get your switch from? > I > may need one myself! > > Tim Durrer > 73 LeBaron Blue Sky > --- Jim Stacey <jhrstacey@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > We've all heard that old saying "Never buy a car > > made on a Monday or a > > Friday". Well, I've come to believe there just > may > > be some truth to that. > > The fender tag on my '73 Lebaron indicates it was > > built on Sept 18 1972 - a > > Monday. I just discovered that one of the parts > > installed at the factory > > for the AutoTemp II system is not the correct part > > at all, but rather > > belongs to the non-AutoTemp version of the > > heating/air conditioning system. > > > > > > > > My car is totally dismantled at the moment for a > > very slow do-it-yourself > > ground up restoration, and it has been over 20 > years > > since I drove it, but I > > remember that when I was driving the car many > years > > ago, the air > > conditioning was never as cold as it should have > > been and I think I now know > > why. I also remember that when I took the dash > > apart and stored all the > > bits and pieces in boxes that there was a bundle > of > > vacuum hoses that just > > went "nowhere". I thought that was strange at the > > time. I since determined > > from the parts book, FSM and '71 Master > Technician's > > Service Conference on > > A/T II that this bundle of hoses was supposed to > go > > to a "vacuum transfer > > switch" that controls the fresh air/recirculation > > door. I figured maybe > > somehow that little switch got missed as my car > made > > its way down the > > assembly line. After all, it was a Monday! To my > > delight, I was able to > > order an NOS transfer switch and thought my > troubles > > were over. > > > > > > > > However, now that I have the vacuum switch, I have > > determined that I also > > have the wrong fresh air/recirculating door > > assembly. It looks like I have > > the air door for standard A/C and not AutoTemp II. > > > (Actually there seem to > > be a few different names for this part. The parts > > book calls it the "Air > > recirculating housing" PN 3620732. The FSM "air > > door housing" and the MTSC > > calls it the "air inlet door". I'll just call it > > the "air door" for > > simplicity.) Anyway, the air door for AutoTemp II > > should have a cam > > attached to it to move the spool valve of the > > transfer switch through its > > travel as the door moves from zero to 100% outside > > air. And the bracket > > that holds the vacuum pot (actuator) that moves > the > > door should have a place > > to mount the transfer switch. Mine has neither! A > > bad day at the factory > > indeed! > > > > > > > > So now I am looking for a '71 thro' 73 air door > > housing for AutoTemp II > > (with cam and bracket for the transfer switch). > > There is good news and bad > > news regarding this air door housing assembly. > The > > good news is that this > > part is easily removed "once you get to it". The > > bad news is that there is > > quite a bit involved in "getting to it". It is > > located directly behind the > > heater blower motor and is accessed from the > engine > > compartment side of the > > firewall. There are just four screws holding it > in > > the firewall, but you > > have to remove the blower motor and the large > > plastic air plenum/housing on > > the firewall first. Just removing the blower > motor > > is a challenge because > > it is pretty much buried in behind the right front > > fender. The FSM says you > > can remove the blower motor by removing the > plastic > > wheelhouse inner fender > > shields and going at it from "underneath", but I > > have a feeling it would be > > a lot easier with the fender completely off! > > > > > > > > If anyone out there on the List has a '71 - '73 > > parts car with AutoTemp II > > in such a state of "tear-down" that they could get > > at the air door housing > > rather easily, and would like to sell it, I would > be > > very interested in > > hearing from you off list. > > > > > > > > Jim Stacey > > > > Ontario, Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com > ----------------- > This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing > List. Please > reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your > response will be > === message truncated === Kenyon Wills __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm