John,
All the points you made are essentially correct and I would not dispute
them; however, it is the use of straight, rust-free cars from no-salt
states
that makes one question the "thugs".
I myself have benefited from the availability of usable trim and interior
or
mechanical parts from a completely washed up and un-salvageable battered
and
rusted hulk. It is when I drive in to a noted salvage-yard here in
Minnesota
that is known for its large stock of old cars (including some Imperials),
and see a truck that has just arrived from Arizona or Northern California
carrying 3-or-4 Imperials from the early to late sixties, all straight and
rust-free and loaded with options--
complete, restorable cars that have been purchased to sell to derby-guys--
and hear the yard-owner say, "What do YOU care--it just makes your car
more
rare and valuable!" The last time it was a '65 LeBaron with all options
and
a '64 Crown Coupe--both beauitiful and complete cars. The '64 even had a
nearly perfect interior. The guy who was buying them wouldn't even
consider
selling parts he was taking off anyway-- he said it was less bother to
just
toss everything in his dumpster and go on about his business. We asked for
permission to "dive" in the dumpster, but he wouldn't hear of it and tell
where it would be. This attitude lends ammunition to a negative attitude
towards these guys, giving credence to the opinion that they are
beauty-hating-and-destroying Neanderthals.
And I know-- the salvage-yard guy is in the business to make money, but
considering the rarity of parts for these limited-production beauties, a
program of advertising in the right places would surely bring in more via
piece-by-piece parts sales than a one-time sale of a complete car.
Kristian Oyen
1963 Imperial Crown Southampton 4-door
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-----Original Message-----
From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Harvey
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 9:01 PM
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Subject: Re: IML: Modern Derby Cars
That is not quite the reason demolition derby people like old cars.
Demolition Derbies are basic thuggery--the guy with the biggest club wins.
Actually, if you have some basic skills and think, you can win a lot
better
with a mid-or large sized front wheel drive car like a Taurus or an
Intepid.
The thing that makes these cars cheap is when the electroinics go out. It
is really tough to jumper out the electroincs to make it go anyway, which
is
why the are not all that popular in the Demos.
Another thing that happens is that we look at an old Imperial for
either
it's potential as a restoration candidate--like how much will it cost us
to
get it presentable, or its potential for usable parts. A a car with bent
rusty bumpers, shredded interior, broken windows, long wetted power
windows,
and so forth, is of little value to us; however, it is iron to a demo
driver. He doesn't care all that much how much it smokes, or even if it
knocks a bit. As long as he has first and reverse, the actual condition
of
the transmission is of little concern to him. It isn't actually going that
far anyway. The condition of diecast and chrome is of no consequence.
Then there is the pressure of significant others, and the authorities
on the owner to get rid of it.
JOhn
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. Howland" <howlands@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: IML: Modern Derby Cars
People don't use modern cars 'cause they don't make 'em like they used
to.
Daryl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Durrer" <tdkd99@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: IML: Derby cars for sale web sitee
Very sad indeed. Why don't these people use modern
cars? Cost I guess.
Tim Durrer
73 LeBaron blue sky
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