RE: IML: 64 Iml clocks

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Hi Doug...if you don't mind my asking, what was the approx. cost to have the clock 'converted' to quartz drive?
Thanks!
Dan Melnik

---- Douglas Nieblas <doug58imp@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

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Hello Folks, I had a similar clock in a 1967 Fury. These clocks are 
generally problematic, even if you restore them back to original condition, 
they will eventually stop in a few years. The problem lies with the 
mechanism which winds the clock. It burns itself out just with regular use. 
I had it repaired twice and it simply stopped soon afterwards. I bought an 
extra clock in Hemmings and sent it to be converted to a quartz drive and I 
never had any further problems. That's what I plan to do with my 58 Imperial 
when I get around to it. A quartz convertion is invisible and makes the 
clock far more accurate than any electro-mechanical drive. That is what I 
recommend to anyone with one of these types of clocks. Bye for now.    Doug


>From: "JAY D'ANGELO" <cadij@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:31:53 -0700
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>I took the clock to another clock repair guy in Las Vegas today.  He said 
>he could fix it, including the burned out coil.  But, he must need some 
>money for the slot machines because he said his price was $190!Anyway, it 
>is back in the dash showing 6 pm and it will show 6pm until someone with 
>$190 wants to fix it.  Jeez, nothing is inexpensive anymore.Jay64 ImlDate: 
>Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:22:53 -0400From: randalpark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Re: IML: 64 
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>Thanks for the clarification on that.
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>The points close gradually as the clock mechanically runs, and the main 
>spring unwinds. They open when they touch or "contact", resulting in a 
>small spark, and bouce apart. This action winds the clock spring. A 
>mechanical device (similar to a small ratchet) holds them in position in 
>relation to the clock movement. The main spring once again unwinds, draws 
>them gradually closer together, until they touch, bounce apart, and rewind 
>the spring. That happens over and over again, and is what we are listening 
>to when we hear the clock make that funny sound every minute or so.
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>The spark tends to make a build up on the points over time, blocking 
>electrical connection (or one could say electrical un-connection) that 
>should occur when they touch. This can happen very quickly if there is 
>lubricant or finger prints on the contact point surfaces. Once this 
>happens, they don't bounce apart and rewind the clock spring, and the clock 
>stops running.
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>Electric motor clocks, and quartz clocks do not work this way.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: cadij@xxxxxxxxxxx
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>Sent: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:12 AM
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>The "winding" I mentioned is actually called a coil.  It's a small, 
>retangular device about the size of two sugar cubes.  It provides the 
>electricity to open and close the points which gives the juice to the 
>mechanicals to run.
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>I can't seem to find a clock repair place in LV (still searching) than can 
>do a conversion for me.
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>Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:46:58 -0400
>From: randalpark@xxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: IML: 64 Iml clocks
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>Hmmm, I don't have a '64, but the clocks in my 1963 and my 1965 are 
>mechanical with a set of contact points that rewind the main spring upon 
>contact. I don't remember any "windings" . The clocks are seldom worn out 
>because the points become burned and fail to open for the winding action, 
>long before the holes in the plates become egg shaped, or the pivots 
>grooved.
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>Is the clock used in '64 different from the others? If not, maybe this one 
>was converted to an electric at some point, and it has become worn out. 
>1956 has a continuous running electric motor clock. These do run long 
>enough to destroy themselves, resulting in wheels and pinions not meshing, 
>and the clock running about 100X normal after hitting a bump in the road.
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>Quartz conversions are common and simple. I haven't chosen to convert any 
>of mine. I visited a friend over the weekend who has a fabulous '65 Crown. 
>He graciously showed me his car and let me sit inside. Other than the 
>perfect interior, the first thing I noticed was that the clock was running 
>continuously rather than the traditional "ticking". He told me that he had 
>converted his to quartz.
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>I purchased several new quartz movements from the local Buick Dealer over 
>20 years ago with the intention of using them to do Imperial clock 
>conversions, but never actually did it. Late 1970's and early 1980's Buick 
>LeSabre's had a very dependable, and smooth running clock over the glove 
>box opening. I believed that these movements were compact enough to work on 
>some of my cars, but I have yet to actually attempt it.
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>Sorry about the long rant, but that post triggered a lot of old thoughts 
>and ideas I once had about the cars.
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>-----Original Message-----
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>The clock in my 64 isn't working.  A clock repairman examined it today and 
>says the windings are fried, but mechanically it works.  I'd like to 
>convert it to a modern quartz clock.  Anyone have experience with this type 
>of conversion?  or, anyone with a working clock for sale?
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>Jay D'Angelo
>64 Iml Cvt
>Las Vegas
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