Re: IML: 1960 serial number and first registration date

[Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

As Paul stated, the black plates with yellow letters did not come to exist until 1963, when California changed the plate color (from black-on-yellow) and reissued new plates to all cars, starting with AAA000. They went through the C-plates (as in CZZ999) during the first year, so all the plate BKR834 tells us is that the car was registered in California during 1963. It won't tell you the original plate number it wore in 1960 nor the date it was first registered.

I don't see how can you know the information that your DMV is requesting, or how anyone could. On all my cars in California, the registration just says "00/00/XXXX" under "Date first sold" (with XXXX being 1967 for my 1967 car, 2001 for my 2001 Jeep, etc.). But the zeroes actually show up as zeroes on my registration, only the year is an actual number!

If you have proof that your car is a 1960 model, I wonder what else could they possibly need. Maybe you can email the DMV in CA and request the info from the plate number. They have a website: www.dmv.ca.gov

Chris in LA
67 Crown

-----Original Message-----
>From: randalpark@xxxxxxx
>Sent: Mar 10, 2006 11:43 AM
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>Subject: Re: IML: 1960 serial number and first registration date
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>Try contacting the State of California. They may have a web site that would enable you to request the information. 
> 
>That black plate with yellow numbers would not have been the first plate it had if the car was bought new in California. Those plates came out in around 1963. When your Imperial was new, under those circumstances, it would have had yellow plates with black numbers the first time around.
> 
>Paul W. 
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rob van der Es <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Sent: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:58:08 +0100 (CET)
>Subject: Re: IML: 1960 serial number and first registration date
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>
>Hello fellow members,
>
>I have another question for your with regard to my VIN .
>My VIN is 9204116664 and I learned from fellow member Bill Watson that my
>car is built in early June of 1960.
>
>What I need to know now is when the car was registrated and thus allowed
>on the road for the first time.
>You see, my car has to be registrated in my country (the Netherlands that
>is ) within a couple of months and in order to get a title here my local
>DMV needs to know the exact date when the car was registrated for the
>first time.
>
>My car has Californian plates (yellow on black) and the license tag is
>BKR 834.
>
>Is there a way to find out when it came on the road for the first time in
>1960 ?
>
>Thanks for your help,
>
>Robert
>
>
>Op Vr, 10 maart, 2006 5:37 pm, schreef Chris Whalen:
>> The VIN on my 1960 LeBaron hardtop is 9304106502.
>>
>>
>> I have some of the original paperwork. Its original
>> owner was Rose K. Goldthwaite of 804 South Washington Street in Marion,
>> Indiana. The delivery date was
>> September 9, 1960.
>>
>>
>> Sounds like a fair amount of time may have passed
>> between building and selling of the car?
>>
>> Someone drew a picture of her on the back of the
>> owner's manual. She was a 40-ish Donna Reed type.
>>
>>
>>
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